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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 12:01 AM
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possibly, I had a carfax check a while back it wasn't that good...
Old Dec 27, 2005 | 08:06 AM
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I'm not big on the front plate area of the GMS sfcs. That looks like it would weld behind the front frame instead of on it, or the tubing had to go under the front frame instead of fitting between the frames.

I noticed a nice difference w/my sfc install. Much flatter feeling in the curves. I drove on some twisty back roads to and from getting them installed, so I had a good before and after conparison.
Get some good tires and tight curves and give it a try.

Yes, there are people who autox and don't use them. Mainly due to class restrictions.

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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by amean94ta
as soon as you make some real power you will notice compared to a car without


This is exactly correct. The car won't twist around as much - just felt sloppy before the SFC's.
Old Dec 27, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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I think that might be your problem. When I had my BMR boxed SFC's installed, I had the mechanic use the drive-on car lift. That way, the wheels stayed on the ground as if the car was on the road. And I felt a huge difference when I drove the car home, I could literally feel the sfc under the drivers seat.
Old Dec 27, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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o well there stuck now, I'll just grease the sqeaky stuff
Old Dec 27, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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That one picture of the SFC on the ground doesn't look like they have much of a mating surface for the connection to the front frame. Definately not what you want.

I agree with Camarocracy. My instructions stated that the car had to be level and had to have the chassis loaded.
Old Dec 27, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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Depending on how you welded them, you can grind the welds off and do it over. If you do re-install them, I would put the car on 4 rhino ramps.
Old Dec 29, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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If I looked at your pics right you installed them with the suspension hanging? That is incorrect! They are supposted to be installed with the suspension loaded or weight on wheels not hanging.
I wouldn't even hesistate to remove and install correctly!
I installed diamond type SFC's and noticed a big difference on how the car handles rough road much better even with my hardtop car.
Take them off and redo them & you'll be much happier!
Old Dec 29, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Camarocracy
I think that might be your problem. When I had my BMR boxed SFC's installed, I had the mechanic use the drive-on car lift. That way, the wheels stayed on the ground as if the car was on the road. And I felt a huge difference when I drove the car home, I could literally feel the sfc under the drivers seat.
You could literally feel it? Like touching it?

No offense, but I think a lot of people get that psycological effect of some things. Not saying they don't make a difference, but some peoples minds probably make that difference bigger.
Old Dec 29, 2005 | 09:33 PM
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Can you get on the navy base out in millington? If you can they have several nice lifts that you can drive onto. They also have everything that you need to do most work on your car, all in the hobby shop.
Old Dec 29, 2005 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by psmopar
If I looked at your pics right you installed them with the suspension hanging? That is incorrect! They are supposted to be installed with the suspension loaded or weight on wheels not hanging.
I wouldn't even hesistate to remove and install correctly!
I installed diamond type SFC's and noticed a big difference on how the car handles rough road much better even with my hardtop car.
Take them off and redo them & you'll be much happier!
Exactly. I have the UMI boxed SFC's and I installed them with a buddy at work on the drive on lift. Thats what I read you're supposed to do. Not having your rear suspension loaded, the chassis behind your rear jackstands was loaded in the opposite direction due to gravity. You need the car to sit the way it does when yer driving it. I would totally take a grinder to those welds and cut them off, clean the areas up again and re-weld them. I would almost imagine you have made the stability of the vehicle worse as far as handling goes.
Old Dec 29, 2005 | 11:59 PM
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Sort of. I have really acute senses when it comes to cars. I hear everything and feel everything when I'm driving a car [so if anything is wrong, I notice it right away]. And after the sfc's where installed, it just felt a LOT more solid on the drivers side of the car.
Old Dec 30, 2005 | 09:33 AM
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You really shouldn't "feel" to much of a difference with them installed under normal driving. However at the track and a little bit of power you will get a straighter launch out of them, they also protect the vehicle from twisting when you have a good torque curve.
Old Dec 30, 2005 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 1racerdude
Got a set of Global West and the car will sit on 3 jack stands now, it wouldn't before.
ditto for the global west sfc's & the 3 jackstands



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