Bob Bishop bracket clearance question...
03-07-2005, 12:16 PM
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Re: Bob Bishop bracket clearance question...
Originally Posted by lt1aggie
still no pictures...anyone?
03-07-2005, 12:23 PM
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Re: Bob Bishop bracket clearance question...
Originally Posted by LWillmann
The link above with Installation information for the brackets has a pic that I believe is of the newer brackets, but I'm not 100% on that.
03-09-2005, 08:45 PM
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Re: Bob Bishop bracket clearance question...
if anyone can send me dimensions of the brackets i can work on making them in my spare time at work.
i'll make changes as i see fit so that i'm not infringing on the design, i just need the important numbers.
mike
i'll make changes as i see fit so that i'm not infringing on the design, i just need the important numbers.
mike
03-09-2005, 09:04 PM
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Re: Bob Bishop bracket clearance question...
Probably not going to happen. I don't think Bob will give that out to just anyone. There are many liability issues concerning the brackets, especially if a person was to try to sell them. It's more than the brackets too. It has to do with bolts and other mounting hardware.
03-10-2005, 07:44 PM
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Re: Bob Bishop bracket clearance question...
i wasn't talking about bob specifically, anyone that buys a set or knows anyone with a set can measure them up with a set of calipers. if he's not willing to make them then he shouldn't complain about others making them.
how much do they cost btw??
how much do they cost btw??
03-10-2005, 09:58 PM
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Re: Bob Bishop bracket clearance question...
Originally Posted by limige
i wasn't talking about bob specifically, anyone that buys a set or knows anyone with a set can measure them up with a set of calipers. if he's not willing to make them then he shouldn't complain about others making them.
how much do they cost btw??
how much do they cost btw??
03-11-2005, 05:08 AM
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Re: Bob Bishop bracket clearance question...
They were about $280 including all the bolts. The type of bolts are critical. You'll need to be an engineer to figure out that part.
Seriously. I'd be very cautious in trying to make and sell these. If anything happens due to poor design, you're in serious trouble from a liability point of view.
It was a complete engineered kit, not just a bracket with some bolts thrown in.
Seriously. I'd be very cautious in trying to make and sell these. If anything happens due to poor design, you're in serious trouble from a liability point of view.
It was a complete engineered kit, not just a bracket with some bolts thrown in.
03-11-2005, 07:21 AM
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Re: Bob Bishop bracket clearance question...
Originally Posted by bruecksteve
Probably not going to happen. I don't think Bob will give that out to just anyone. There are many liability issues concerning the brackets, especially if a person was to try to sell them. It's more than the brackets too. It has to do with bolts and other mounting hardware.
03-11-2005, 08:03 AM
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Re: Bob Bishop bracket clearance question...
It's being considered. He wants to make sure that there is enough interest to justify the expense of making them. My guess it that it will happen, maybe pretty soon.
06-09-2005, 12:02 PM
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Re: Bob Bishop bracket clearance question...
Originally Posted by lateapex
I am aware of only 4 wheels that do not fit over the C5 front brakes:
1. Enkei Win (17 x 9.5)
2. 93-94 SLP Firehawk wheel (17 x 9, I believe it was made by ROH)
3. Borbet Type T (17 x 9.5)
4. Forgeline RS reverse rim (I had custom Forgelines made with their 17 x 9.5 rims, reversed, to use their 18 centers. That put the drop-center near the outside of the rim where it interfered with the C5 caliper)
The first 3 of the above may very well fit if wheel spacers are used. The reverse Forgelines had RIM interference, not SPOKE, so would not have been useable even with spacers. The early Firehawk wheel had a 6.875 backspace, and the spokes curved inward severely: http://members.aol.com/anastasis2/black94hawk.htm ,similar to the Borbets. I would be suspicious of any wheel that has a really deep dish on the outside of the spokes.
By the way, I have not verified the incompatibility of the first 3 wheels. It is from feedback from 3 customers (out of over 220), but I fully believe that they were correct. IIRC, the person with the Enkeis did not actually try them over C5 brakes, but determined the incompatibility by using my fitment template in his Enkeis.
1. Enkei Win (17 x 9.5)
2. 93-94 SLP Firehawk wheel (17 x 9, I believe it was made by ROH)
3. Borbet Type T (17 x 9.5)
4. Forgeline RS reverse rim (I had custom Forgelines made with their 17 x 9.5 rims, reversed, to use their 18 centers. That put the drop-center near the outside of the rim where it interfered with the C5 caliper)
The first 3 of the above may very well fit if wheel spacers are used. The reverse Forgelines had RIM interference, not SPOKE, so would not have been useable even with spacers. The early Firehawk wheel had a 6.875 backspace, and the spokes curved inward severely: http://members.aol.com/anastasis2/black94hawk.htm ,similar to the Borbets. I would be suspicious of any wheel that has a really deep dish on the outside of the spokes.
By the way, I have not verified the incompatibility of the first 3 wheels. It is from feedback from 3 customers (out of over 220), but I fully believe that they were correct. IIRC, the person with the Enkeis did not actually try them over C5 brakes, but determined the incompatibility by using my fitment template in his Enkeis.
06-09-2005, 12:41 PM
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Re: Bob Bishop bracket clearance question...
Originally Posted by Black_95Formula
Hey I have the newer style SLP Firehawk rims (bought in 2000), will the C5s fit my wheels?
You could get helpful information at the SLP site or from their complete catalog. It lists all of the wheels they have marketed and gives all of the critical dimensions. Since Baer provides the necessary clearance dimensions on their fitment template, you could determine if their system will clear your Firehawk wheels. Remember, Baer wisely recommends that you have at least .100 (a tenth of an inch) clearance between the outer face of the caliper and the inside of the spokes, and the same clearance between the outer circumference of the caliper and the inner circumference of the wheel rim.
The later Firehawk wheels DO clear the C5 front brakes using C5 front rotors with my adaptor brackets.
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