Final chance at getting a set of Bob Bishop C5 to F-body Brake Conversion Brackets...
#181
Originally posted by Turbo6
The C5 rotors aren't slotted or crossdrilled
Any thoughts?
The C5 rotors aren't slotted or crossdrilled
Any thoughts?
I guess it just all depends on what you want. I, personally, want the best possible braking I can get out of my car and could care less about *Bling*. But I don't show my car & I prefer the stealth look over the flashy look. But again, that is just me personally. If you don't mind giving up performance, the slotted, crossdrilled rotors are sure to add to the looks of any car. I just wouldn't count on those rotors lasting nearly as long as the "plain" variety. From what I know, they tend to warp and/or crack MUCH easier then "plain" rotors in general. I am not being brand specific here, so perhaps the ones you spoke of are stronger, but I wouldn't trust something that has been weakened severely by cuts and holes to last all that well......
Just my extremely humble $.02
Darrin
#182
Problem with some drilled, slotted (or both) rotors is that is can be done poorly. If so the rotors may crack over time at the outer egde.
If you look at a stock "sports car" brake rotor - then look at say a 92' Ford Taurus, the rotor is one slab of metal. Done.
The C5 rotors are two slabs that are seperated by vanes. This is done to increase the mass that can absorb heat (slabs) and to eliminate it as fast as possible (vanes between them)
Drilling and Slotting attempts to remove hot gasses in the same way, however the goal there is not so much to cool the rotor, but remove any pockets of gas that are caught between the rotor and pad. If done well it does increase brake performance. Then again, so does staying with the $26 napa rotors and getting better pads.
Biggest problem to never forget with the baer kit, yes it is superior in ability, but you cant use off the shelf parts. You cant just walk down to the local auto store and get loaded up on everything you'd need to fix your brakes. It just doesnt happen. The advantage in that regard makes the C5 upgrade more then worthwhile... Also again, used parts makes the world better
I got all 4 used C5 calipers and the front brackets for $170 shipped. Not the best deal, but not horrid. I can chuck the rears, they're worthless to me. Then I just get the pins, brake lines, rotors and pads. Front rotors were $27 each, pads were $45 for both front wheels. So in the end $260+$170+100+$40+$30. Roughly $600 for the upgrade with ceramic pads, new rotors, and stainless lines. And as we've seen, it can be done cheaper.
If you look at a stock "sports car" brake rotor - then look at say a 92' Ford Taurus, the rotor is one slab of metal. Done.
The C5 rotors are two slabs that are seperated by vanes. This is done to increase the mass that can absorb heat (slabs) and to eliminate it as fast as possible (vanes between them)
Drilling and Slotting attempts to remove hot gasses in the same way, however the goal there is not so much to cool the rotor, but remove any pockets of gas that are caught between the rotor and pad. If done well it does increase brake performance. Then again, so does staying with the $26 napa rotors and getting better pads.
Biggest problem to never forget with the baer kit, yes it is superior in ability, but you cant use off the shelf parts. You cant just walk down to the local auto store and get loaded up on everything you'd need to fix your brakes. It just doesnt happen. The advantage in that regard makes the C5 upgrade more then worthwhile... Also again, used parts makes the world better
I got all 4 used C5 calipers and the front brackets for $170 shipped. Not the best deal, but not horrid. I can chuck the rears, they're worthless to me. Then I just get the pins, brake lines, rotors and pads. Front rotors were $27 each, pads were $45 for both front wheels. So in the end $260+$170+100+$40+$30. Roughly $600 for the upgrade with ceramic pads, new rotors, and stainless lines. And as we've seen, it can be done cheaper.
#183
The point with the C5 brakes which I chose, was bang for the buck... and that my pop's z06 brakes VERY Well so why change it...
Maybe I'll go with stopforce rotors and give it a go if my OEM GM Slotted and drilled discs warp easily and/or crack...
They costed me 105 each... So not a bad option.
Maybe I'll go with stopforce rotors and give it a go if my OEM GM Slotted and drilled discs warp easily and/or crack...
They costed me 105 each... So not a bad option.
#184
Re: Son of a monkey
Originally posted by KenB
PS. Bolts... I qualified two suppliers for a major OEM (used by several others, subsequently). Complete in-house production after drawing. If you want, PM me with bolt details, they may have sizes at the property class you need, or could do. I can ask my contacts there
Thanks
Ken Brown
PS. Bolts... I qualified two suppliers for a major OEM (used by several others, subsequently). Complete in-house production after drawing. If you want, PM me with bolt details, they may have sizes at the property class you need, or could do. I can ask my contacts there
Thanks
Ken Brown
PS For those comparing prices, the $809.00 total kit price includes shipping for those in the states. To compare apples with apples, say maybe $780 plus shipping.
Last edited by lateapex; 04-22-2004 at 06:19 PM.
#186
Originally posted by The Highlander
Maybe I'll go with stopforce rotors and give it a go if my OEM GM Slotted and drilled discs warp easily and/or crack...
Maybe I'll go with stopforce rotors and give it a go if my OEM GM Slotted and drilled discs warp easily and/or crack...
Darrin
#188
Originally posted by The Highlander
They are made specifically for the COrvette... I dont have a part number right now as I threw the box
Since i have the C5 brakes on Thanks bob.
They are made specifically for the COrvette... I dont have a part number right now as I threw the box
Since i have the C5 brakes on Thanks bob.
#191
Originally posted by The Highlander
No they are not standard.. you can order them through GMPP
No they are not standard.. you can order them through GMPP
#192
Originally posted by JWBerk94Z
HHmmmm...............does anyone else know the part number of those rotors from GMPP. That sounds like what I would like to try when/if I do C5 brakes.
HHmmmm...............does anyone else know the part number of those rotors from GMPP. That sounds like what I would like to try when/if I do C5 brakes.
Team Chevy said they can get them if anyone wants them; at least they meet minimum OEM quality standards.
#194
Originally posted by TCredTA95
im definately in 4 a 2nd batch got the money ready to go. But no pressure on Bob.
im definately in 4 a 2nd batch got the money ready to go. But no pressure on Bob.
I would LOVE to buy a set for my 01SS...
No pressure on Bob either, and, if he decides to make some more, COUNT ME IN, my credit card is more than ready for this.