MSCC February autocross event
Originally posted by JimMueller
I think I'll opt for the V700's until you tell me how long your money lasts
I think I'll opt for the V700's until you tell me how long your money lasts
It could be an expensive lesson.I'm going to run my Victoracers for the school or at least until I cord them.
I'm going to have them flipped on the rim to try and get a little more life out of them.
Last edited by Jeff94TA; Jan 26, 2004 at 07:31 AM.
Shhha-wing!
Haven't ordered my tires yet. I'll need to order 7/32" wheel spacers and new ARP studs for the front. I picked up a set of extended tip lugnuts & locks from AFS. They said it typically takes 7-10 business days to receive the wheels after processing. I'm not sure I'll have everything by that weekend.
Jeff - Where are you getting your tires mounted & balanced?
Haven't ordered my tires yet. I'll need to order 7/32" wheel spacers and new ARP studs for the front. I picked up a set of extended tip lugnuts & locks from AFS. They said it typically takes 7-10 business days to receive the wheels after processing. I'm not sure I'll have everything by that weekend.
Jeff - Where are you getting your tires mounted & balanced?
I won my AFS wheels on Friday and they were shipped yesterday. They emailed me a tracking number and UPS picked them up in Van Nuys, CA at 5:11 PM yesterday and are scheduled to arrive on Monday, Feb 2nd.
I'm getting them mounted at a little hole in the wall shop near work called Empire Tire. One of my good friends knows these guys and they do have a touchless type tire machine.
I'm getting them mounted at a little hole in the wall shop near work called Empire Tire. One of my good friends knows these guys and they do have a touchless type tire machine.
Did you receive your wheels, Jeff? Mine came in today. Guess it's time to dump all those broken engine parts so I can store'em somewhere
While they weren't chrome, they were shinier than I expected for what I paid. Mine are made in China and have the 1400lb load rating. 25lbs each by my bathroom scale, which is 4lbs per wheel more than the Grandsport wheel, which in turn is 3 lbs heavier than the Fikse/CCW/BBS-type wheels. My wallet can live with that.
I won't have all four tires by February's event. I could have two, but not sure if it's worth rushing them here merely to run a pair of 315 race rubber the front and 285 street rubber on the rear. I've decided to stick (pun intended) with the Victoracers for the first set. The results of your V710's will dictate if I switch.
I guess that'll give me some time to put a couple coats of Zaino on them as well
While they weren't chrome, they were shinier than I expected for what I paid. Mine are made in China and have the 1400lb load rating. 25lbs each by my bathroom scale, which is 4lbs per wheel more than the Grandsport wheel, which in turn is 3 lbs heavier than the Fikse/CCW/BBS-type wheels. My wallet can live with that.
I won't have all four tires by February's event. I could have two, but not sure if it's worth rushing them here merely to run a pair of 315 race rubber the front and 285 street rubber on the rear. I've decided to stick (pun intended) with the Victoracers for the first set. The results of your V710's will dictate if I switch.
I guess that'll give me some time to put a couple coats of Zaino on them as well
I had them shipped to work and they should have arrived today. I left work at 11:00 am to head to Tampa for a meeting and didn't leave Tampa until 7:00m pm so I just got home at 9:00 pm. Hopefully they are there waiting on me and I can get the tires mounted this week. I've been so busy today that I had forgotten about the wheels arriving until I read your post. My schedule sucks this week so I'm really looking forward to Saturday and Sunday for a little stress relief.
hey guys some oddball daydreaming questions(like I actually have teh money for this stuff
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what do you think about Drag radials in the rear, with something like V700s in the front?
Also off hand 265 is a bit big for an 8 in. rim... would be bowing out too much?
)what do you think about Drag radials in the rear, with something like V700s in the front?
Also off hand 265 is a bit big for an 8 in. rim... would be bowing out too much?
Originally posted by MustangEater82
what do you think about Drag radials in the rear, with something like V700s in the front?
what do you think about Drag radials in the rear, with something like V700s in the front?
Also off hand 265 is a bit big for an 8 in. rim... would be bowing out too much?
If you can wait until ~April, I'll probably be selling a set of 5 (yes, full-size spare) 17x9.5" Enkei's. They've seen better days (~130K miles between two F-bodies). You shouldn't go larger than 285 on the 9.5's, but I know people who put 315's on them.
265 is only 1/3 of the tire size equation though. I used to run 275/60 on a set of 15X7 wheels and they were nice and square. As for the mismatch tires... I wouldn't. I made one run on mismatched tires at a members only event last year and I quickly made a change. The fronts had less grip than the rear and I got huge air under the rear wheels. But my car seems to have a wheel hop problem under extreme braking on the course sometimes. I might need LCA relocation brackets. I don't ever get wheel hop under acceleration though. I thought that would be where I'd see it the most.
The LS1 cars are notorious for wheelhop under braking. LT1's will do it as well but something about the LS1 ABS system makes it way worse on those cars.
As for running drag radials I had a friend do that back at the first Gainsville Mini-Prix in '02. He had relatively new 245's up front and pretty used up 275's in the rear. He said the car pushed a little but he still had tons more grip than with just plain street tires.
As for running drag radials I had a friend do that back at the first Gainsville Mini-Prix in '02. He had relatively new 245's up front and pretty used up 275's in the rear. He said the car pushed a little but he still had tons more grip than with just plain street tires.
Originally posted by 2002Z28SSConv
265 is only 1/3 of the tire size equation though. I used to run 275/60 on a set of 15X7 wheels and they were nice and square.
265 is only 1/3 of the tire size equation though. I used to run 275/60 on a set of 15X7 wheels and they were nice and square.
Thanks for the offer but not looking for any more wheels 
I have my stocker 16X8s around... My original plans were to put decent street tires, like AVS sports or similar(jason
)
But after pulling some nice times drag racing I considered the idea of a set of drag radials on 2 of them, and since that woudl put me in race, thought mayb V700s up front... to run it in autocross... And maybe splurge for a set of skinnies for drag racing...
Seems like the V700s would be the better tire, and my car doesn't have problems keeping the rear end under control, peak torque is like 3500 rpms, so its relatively high and only 230 ft. lbs. anyways... I actually have to work to get them to break loose even when I had my old bald Eagle GAs.
I jsut questioned it because I was either looking at drag radials or VictoRacers and saw it was only $5 more for 265 then 245 same profile on a 16in. Seems like 265s are a bit wide but maybe it wasn't too wide. I figured worth asking...
Also I have heard of people sqeuzing an in. smaller diameter tire on a rim so like a 16 in. tires on a 17 in rim. think this would work with a 15 in. tire on a 16 in. rim? Maybe get it a little lower profile
Just doing some research... I might have a pretty nice Tax return this year...

I have my stocker 16X8s around... My original plans were to put decent street tires, like AVS sports or similar(jason
)But after pulling some nice times drag racing I considered the idea of a set of drag radials on 2 of them, and since that woudl put me in race, thought mayb V700s up front... to run it in autocross... And maybe splurge for a set of skinnies for drag racing...
Seems like the V700s would be the better tire, and my car doesn't have problems keeping the rear end under control, peak torque is like 3500 rpms, so its relatively high and only 230 ft. lbs. anyways... I actually have to work to get them to break loose even when I had my old bald Eagle GAs.
I jsut questioned it because I was either looking at drag radials or VictoRacers and saw it was only $5 more for 265 then 245 same profile on a 16in. Seems like 265s are a bit wide but maybe it wasn't too wide. I figured worth asking...
Also I have heard of people sqeuzing an in. smaller diameter tire on a rim so like a 16 in. tires on a 17 in rim. think this would work with a 15 in. tire on a 16 in. rim? Maybe get it a little lower profile

Just doing some research... I might have a pretty nice Tax return this year...
Wow!
You guys and your tire stories. There is no way on Earth you will ever be able to fit a 15 inch diameter tire on a 16 in wheel, a 16 on a 17, or even a 17 on an 18. If you put a "narrower" tire on a wider wheel it will reduce sidewall flex because they are stretched out already. That might be what you were trying to say. I HOPE! Unless maybe there are new rules for geometry like Jim said. Could be... You're the college boy. I don't think Jim has been in school lately and I know it's been a long time for me. 
Thinking back (1992) I think those wheels on my old F150 may have been 15X8's.
BFG Radial TA's.
275mm / 25.4mm per inch = 10.8 inches of "section width".
There was actually only 8.9 inches of tread width according to TireRack. The sidewalls were over 3 inches tall. My square comment was actually referring to the contact patch being square with the ground across the entire tread width. With the sidewalls bulging out almost an inch on each side and being over 3 inches tall there wasn't a problem with having the tread curl up on the edges.
You guys and your tire stories. There is no way on Earth you will ever be able to fit a 15 inch diameter tire on a 16 in wheel, a 16 on a 17, or even a 17 on an 18. If you put a "narrower" tire on a wider wheel it will reduce sidewall flex because they are stretched out already. That might be what you were trying to say. I HOPE! Unless maybe there are new rules for geometry like Jim said. Could be... You're the college boy. I don't think Jim has been in school lately and I know it's been a long time for me. 
Thinking back (1992) I think those wheels on my old F150 may have been 15X8's.
BFG Radial TA's.
275mm / 25.4mm per inch = 10.8 inches of "section width".
There was actually only 8.9 inches of tread width according to TireRack. The sidewalls were over 3 inches tall. My square comment was actually referring to the contact patch being square with the ground across the entire tread width. With the sidewalls bulging out almost an inch on each side and being over 3 inches tall there wasn't a problem with having the tread curl up on the edges.
Last edited by 2002Z28SSConv; Feb 3, 2004 at 06:20 PM.
Serously I have heard stories of 16 being strethced onto 17 in. rims...
And last time I was at the track I was looking at tires on a set of 17X9.5 Zr1s, and the sidewall said, 16 for the drag radial and the front said 17...
Maybe he got the smaller 16X8 ZR1 replicas, but I looked carefully for that and I swear they were 17X9.5 zr1s...
And last time I was at the track I was looking at tires on a set of 17X9.5 Zr1s, and the sidewall said, 16 for the drag radial and the front said 17...
Maybe he got the smaller 16X8 ZR1 replicas, but I looked carefully for that and I swear they were 17X9.5 zr1s...


