Figure out what callies crank this is ??
Figure out what callies crank this is ??
Any help would be great. I did a search everywhere and can up empty.
He said the part# is CAM11A-DS 51264D
He also said it's a one piece seal. It's from More Performance Inc and there part number is 59224 ??
I can`t even find More Performance Inc are they gone ???
He said the part# is CAM11A-DS 51264D
He also said it's a one piece seal. It's from More Performance Inc and there part number is 59224 ??
I can`t even find More Performance Inc are they gone ???
Last edited by BIGCOWL-IMP; Dec 23, 2006 at 03:13 PM.
The actual part numbers from Callies run CAM11A-DS. The "51264D" was probably the retailers part number. Sorry no "More" or "Moore" performance found.
The part number breaks down like this:
CA is 1 piece seal
M is 3.875 stroke
The first number after the M is the main journal size 1 = 350
The second "1" appears to indicate a standard rod journal size of 2.100
Finally found the "A" designation which means it was designed for use with a 5.700" rod length.
DS is their designation for "Dragon Slayer" line of crankshafts.
Scoggin Dickie lists the very same crankshaft here:
http://www.sdpc2000.com/catalog/3888...Crankshaft.htm
You can also see the chart to xref most of the specs here:
http://www.flatlanderracing.com/compstar-cranks.html
The part number breaks down like this:
CA is 1 piece seal
M is 3.875 stroke
The first number after the M is the main journal size 1 = 350
The second "1" appears to indicate a standard rod journal size of 2.100
Finally found the "A" designation which means it was designed for use with a 5.700" rod length.
DS is their designation for "Dragon Slayer" line of crankshafts.
Scoggin Dickie lists the very same crankshaft here:
http://www.sdpc2000.com/catalog/3888...Crankshaft.htm
You can also see the chart to xref most of the specs here:
http://www.flatlanderracing.com/compstar-cranks.html
You can use any rod. The issue so far as the crank is concerned is whether it will balance.
Your other issues are what pistons are readily available to give a sufficient compressed height (area above the first ring) and will it push the wrist pin too far up on the piston.
You need to match the crank, rods and pistons to your goal of displacement and comp. ratio.
Depending on what compression ratio you want, you are just about maxed out as far as throw and rod lengh and still keep a minimum safe distance of top ring to the top of the piston.
Again, understand what CR you want and then try to find pistons to match the rods and crank you are talking about. But then you need to know the head volume to do that. You may be in for a shock. Not sure haven't done that sort of shopping in a long time now.
Your other issues are what pistons are readily available to give a sufficient compressed height (area above the first ring) and will it push the wrist pin too far up on the piston.
You need to match the crank, rods and pistons to your goal of displacement and comp. ratio.
Depending on what compression ratio you want, you are just about maxed out as far as throw and rod lengh and still keep a minimum safe distance of top ring to the top of the piston.
Again, understand what CR you want and then try to find pistons to match the rods and crank you are talking about. But then you need to know the head volume to do that. You may be in for a shock. Not sure haven't done that sort of shopping in a long time now.
Hey thanks again for the info.........I already have je pistons and oliver billit rods. Yes there set up for 396ci. The thing i`m not sure about is that i notice thunder racing sell a callies crank and it states that its for 5.85 rod ?? The one that this guy is selling at a better price is set up for a 5.7 rod. So i`m just not sure what the differnce would be ?
Heres the info from thunder racing
CAM11X-DS Callies DragonSlayer Crankshaft, SBC 3.875" stroke/2.100" Pin Size/350 Mains/1pc Rear Main/5.85" Rod
Heres the info from thunder racing
CAM11X-DS Callies DragonSlayer Crankshaft, SBC 3.875" stroke/2.100" Pin Size/350 Mains/1pc Rear Main/5.85" Rod
Last edited by BIGCOWL-IMP; Dec 24, 2006 at 02:38 PM.
The one piece 3.875" stroke Dragonslayer is normally cammed for a 5.850" rod, and will work with any 5.850" or longer rod. It will also normally balance at an 1800 gram bobweight with either no heavy metal, or possibly a .750" piece in the front counterweight.
The same crank cammed for a 5.700" rod will work with any 5.700" or longer rod, but will be very difficult to balance. I know.... I've done it before. At an 1800 gram bobweight, using the factory external balance flywheel/flexplate, it will take at least 2 pieces of 1" mallory in the back counterweight.
Where this becomes difficult, is that between the outside of the rear seal area, and the edge of the counterweight, there is barely enough room to drill and ream for the mallory. You need to leave enough material on the outer edge of the counterweight to retain the press fit required to keep it from coming out. At the same time you need to be very careful not to get the drill or reamer up against the seal surface. It's very tricky to say the least.
..... you'll probably spend more on the balance job than if you bought the more expensive crank to start with.
The same crank cammed for a 5.700" rod will work with any 5.700" or longer rod, but will be very difficult to balance. I know.... I've done it before. At an 1800 gram bobweight, using the factory external balance flywheel/flexplate, it will take at least 2 pieces of 1" mallory in the back counterweight.
Where this becomes difficult, is that between the outside of the rear seal area, and the edge of the counterweight, there is barely enough room to drill and ream for the mallory. You need to leave enough material on the outer edge of the counterweight to retain the press fit required to keep it from coming out. At the same time you need to be very careful not to get the drill or reamer up against the seal surface. It's very tricky to say the least.
..... you'll probably spend more on the balance job than if you bought the more expensive crank to start with.
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