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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 07:01 PM
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road racing f-bodys

I'm setting up my T/A as a pure road racer and was looking for some websites on other owners projects, could you please post
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 08:44 PM
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OKay cool! I have a third gen, I can help if you have one of those. See my sig below.
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 08:54 PM
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its an ls1, but any help is appreciated, thanks
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 09:10 PM
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The next question: is this a trailered car only driving on the track or a combo car? With your answer, call Sam Strano and he will set up with the proper suspension components: http://www.stranoparts.com

Suspension is where folks can go really wrong. You have to know the proper spring rates and get the right shocks and swaybars for your application.

If you are just starting out then run the car stock for a while and learn what it does. Add the goodies as you go so you can truly appreciate the mods.

Depending on how serious you are about track time you will have to consider what level of safety equipment to use on your person (helmet, suit) and the car (roll bar, safety belts). Have an experienced shop that works with racers help you with this. Wear a neck collar or some type of head and neck safety device. Do your research here, this is not a place to skimp or compromise!

Good luck!
Old Dec 5, 2003 | 12:42 PM
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I can also help......

I can help you along with any questions.....
Here's a link to what it looks like.
http://www.ddrockinrods.com/Event/1122HD112.jpg
Old Dec 6, 2003 | 07:55 PM
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Re: road racing f-bodys

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I'm setting up my T/A as a pure road racer and was looking for some websites on other owners projects, could you please post
There aren't many web sites at all on this subject. Your best bet is just to ask questions in this forum and on ls1.com just like you're doing now. There are a few of us who post on these forums.

I own a '94 Firebird and race in NASA's American Iron class. What class are you going to race in?
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 06:23 AM
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... the levels of participation vary, so you'll need to decide how far into this adventure you're willing to go.

Dedicated (trailered) track car, comp license, daily driver/track car, rollcage, etc, etc.

My 3rd Gen is a dedicated (trailered) track car. I don't compete, but I instruct and get a lot of track time as compensation. I just really appreciate being able to drive some of the premiere (legendary) road courses here on the East Coast.

Some sites would be:

American Iron
N.A.S.A.-VA SCCA

You'll find more links on the NASA site.

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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 02:25 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by 99HOSS
[B]... the levels of participation vary, so you'll need to decide how far into this adventure you're willing to go.[quote}

I want to join nasa or scca this year. What do you reccomend first to get started in the lower level/ street car classes and autocross or road race?
thanks
Old Dec 16, 2003 | 02:47 PM
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I would suggest contacting people that race the cars in SCCA T2, World Challenge etc....I have done many modifications and have a well balanced car that is still useable on the street. I would almost concentrate on brakes and chassis before the engine. Doing these areas first will help more than installing headers, throttle body, etc..... Alot of times you can also notice more of an improvement over engine modifications. And remember, just because it is aftermarket, doesn't mean its better.
Old Dec 16, 2003 | 03:34 PM
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Are you planning to set the car up for a particular class or club? What mods are allowed?

Or are you setting it up for HPDE/open track events? If that is the case, then you can follow the link in my sig and see what I have done. I have tried a lot of different stuff (on my fourth set of springs), and am extremely happy with the performance of my T/A on a road course.
Old Dec 16, 2003 | 06:51 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by DT
I want to join nasa or scca this year. What do you reccomend first to get started in the lower level/ street car classes and autocross or road race?
thanks
If you're new at this then I'd recommend getting your feet wet first before you dive in. For instance, go to http://www.nasaproracing.com and find the NASA region near you. They'll have a web site that will let you find out their schedule for '04. I'd then recommend that you try a High Performance Driving Event on a road course where there is very limited passing allowed and you'll have an instructor. You can then progress upwards through the HPDE 1-4 ranks and into road racing if you want. That will give you time to figure out if it's what you want to do, and what kind of class you want to be in (or can afford).

It's likely your local region will be http://www.racenasa.com . We have a couple of events at BeaveRun near Pittsburgh next year.

Before you get on a road course at high speed I'd highly recommend autoxing to help you learn to control your car at the limit. NASA has autox classes in some regions or you can try the SCCA. http://www.sccaforums.com http://www.scca.com are good places to start.
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 07:09 PM
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T/A Man , where in Canada are you?? If you are in Ontario you should definitely consider Solo 1. The Ontario Solo 1 series is the best in North America and allows you to run full bore on race tracks with out requiring a cage or roll bar as is required in the USA . It is similar to what some people call time trials but ( I think) involves a lot more track time. Essentially it is like qualifying only and is very competitive as well as basically a "run what you brung" series. Certainly having your laps timed to the thousandth of a second inspires more spirited driving than any lapping day.
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by Dave B
The Ontario Solo 1 series is the best in North America and allows you to run full bore on race tracks with out requiring a cage or roll bar as is required in the USA . . . Certainly having your laps timed to the thousandth of a second inspires more spirited driving than any lapping day.
Dave, no offense meant to you, but these 2 statements sound awfully dangerous when paired together. How safe do you think it is to have a series where people are driving for that last thousandths of a second without the rules at least requiring they have the minimum of safety equipment onboard if something happens? I wouldn't do it.

If they keep you to Solo II speeds it's a little bit safer, but Solo I generally doesn't.
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 11:15 PM
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At most tracks we run, the max speed in my car is about 110 MPH although some of the Z06s that are modified are hitting 125 MPH. We do require SA helmuts etc. but since the vast majority of personal injuries ,at least at regional racing levels, seem to be when 2 or more cars contact , not when 1 slides off the road we feel that the risk of serious impact is low. Admitedly this would be very different if we were running high speed ovals but at the tracks we use we have not found it necessary to force the installation of cages or bars in what are usually street driven cars. Yes we have had rollovers , almost exclusively in front wheel drive cars, but over 20 years we have never had a personal injury accident. Certainly the deaths and major injuries at least here in Canada have been exclusively in wheel to wheel racing.
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