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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 12:17 AM
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What are your thoughts on NuFinish?

Anyone ever use this?

www.nufinish.com
Old Jun 8, 2003 | 08:44 AM
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NuFinish is not something I'd ever use on my car. As far as cleaner waxes go I think NuFinish takes the cake for abrasives and solvents. Nufinish uses some pretty harsh solvents in their formula, but hey, on a beater all that abrasiveness really cleans it up. I used it on an outside beater about a year ago, to compare it's "one-year" durability claim, and it actually surprised me. Surprising in the fact that Meguiar's Cleaner Wax actually outlasted the NuFinish on this vehicle. I got 2 full months of durability from Meguiar's C/W before it crapped out, where the NuFinish was gone even before the first month. So much for their 1-year BS.... And, this is pretty bad when you condiser NuFinish is supposed to be a synthetic, and obviously the Meg's is a carnauba..... As least the Meg's doesn't use such harsh chemiicals though..... Take a whiff of the NuFinish and it will just about knock you over.....very strong. On a good, well cared for finish, NuFinish would be the devil IMO.... The only time I would recommend NuFinish is for a beater where you don't care so much about the paint.....but even then you can use better products, like the Meguiar's or Mother's Cleaner Wax.

Then again, considering NuFinish is made by a food company, I'd say they've got quite a bit to learn about making a decent car wax product..... I've still got about 75% full bottle that will probably be used in cleaning up tile and things around the house. The abrasives will really clean stuff up lol....


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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 04:59 PM
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I wouldnt use NuFinish on any car with a clear coat. It can really restore paint that is a lost cause, to something thats workable though. For todays soft paint, no good. Me and My freinds have a joke about NuFinish, "With every buff on and off you decrease the value of your car, by 10 cents". I have a bottle i used to use to get rough spots out of the 81 malibu we used to have. Now the only use i can see to get rid of it, is to clean the insides of my exhaust tips with it.
Old Jun 10, 2003 | 09:47 AM
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It won't touch the surface of my car. That's my opinion of it.
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 10:08 PM
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Sorry guys, but you are all wrong.

Nufinish is great stuff and there are absolutely no abrasives in it as far as I can tell. I'm about the pickiest guy you'll ever meet when it comes to my car so take my word. I've used it plenty of times on my perfect black paint too.

It lasts a realy long time, and it shines great too--plus it's cheap. If I was on a budget, I'd buy it. I already have used it quite a bit too.
Old Jun 11, 2003 | 10:19 PM
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Actually, yes, it is quite abrasive as it is a "cleaner wax" type product. The cleaners and solvents are VERY strong in NuFinish. IMO, no good paint finish needs these strong cleaners on a regular basis. And, cleaners = abrasives. If it wasn't abrasive, it wouldn't clean up old oxidized paints like it does. Maybe you thought I meant by saying it has "abrasives" that it contains physical grit, like a swirl remover. Nope. Abrasives can take many forms in products. Strong cleaners, acids, aluminum oxide, kerosenes, etc are all forms of abrasives that can remove paint or weaken paint over time with repeated use. NuFinish is full of strong solvent that I'd consider more abrasive than most any cleaner wax I've ever used. FWIW, a guy on another forum was claiming NuFinish actually ruined one of his paint finishes. I can't back up those claims or don't know his whole story, but I do know the product is pretty strong.

It lasted a month for me.....if that's what you call a long time. Meguiar's cleaner wax lasts longer IMO.

If you're happy with it, that's fine, but I just think you could be using safer, more durable, paint friendly products and get even better results for about the same price. Have you tried Mother's cleaner wax, Mother's Reflections, or DuraGloss products? Personally, I think any of these would be much better for your paint, and they aren't very expensive.....



EDIT - Another test I happened to remember.....
Here's another test someone did to determine the abrasiveness of certian products......He painted some panels with a good quality black or brown spray paint, then used 3 or 4 different products to see which would remove the paint due to the presence of cleaners or abrasives. Best I remember, he used Zaino Z2, NuFinish, Pinnalce Paint Cleansing Lotion (a paint cleaner), and one other product that I can't recall, maybe Klasse, not sure. All the products were rubbed on with a white cloth. Long story short, the Zaino Z2 showed no signs of black paint on the cloth after rubbing it on....it just showed the pinkish dye from the Z2. The Pinnacle had some slight black on the cloth, and the NuFinish cloth was completely black with paint that it had removed. Basically, the NuFinish was the strongest product of the test, even stronger than a true paint cleaner product. The whole point being that a good finish will not need such strong cleaners. I will say that NuFinish will clean up beaters or neglected paints pretty well. That's about the only time I'll use it.....


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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 12:21 AM
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Nu Finish contains some VERY strong solvents, mainly a chemical similar to kerosene called Stoddard Solvent, 10% of the bottle is this solvent (might as well be gasoline to me) The product is for sure mainly for older paints that need a lot of cleaning. How do I know you may ask what is in the product, do your research online and you can find out what is in about any car product, click the link below and look at the MSDS sheet:

http://www.hazard.com/msds/f/blc/blctm.html

Then read this:

What is Stoddard solvent?
(Pronounced stod'ard sol'vent)

Stoddard solvent is a colorless, flammable liquid that smells and tastes like kerosene. It will turn into a vapor at temperatures of 150–200 °C.

Stoddard solvent is a petroleum mixture that is also known as dry cleaning safety solvent, petroleum solvent, and varnoline; its registered trade names are Texsolve S® and Varsol 1®. It is a chemical mixture that is similar to white spirits.

Stoddard solvent is used as a paint thinner; in some types of photocopier toners, printing inks, and adhesives; as a dry cleaning solvent; and as a general cleaner and degreaser.

Use of trade names is for identification only and does not imply endorsement by the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (ATSDR) the Public Health Service, or the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS).

What happens to Stoddard solvent when it enters the environment?

Because Stoddard solvent is a mixture of many chemicals, these chemicals may react differently in the environment. Some of these chemicals can:

Be broken down by sunlight or other chemicals in the air;
Attach to particles in soil or water;
Sink down to the sediment in water; and
Be broken down by microorganisms in water, soil, or sediment.
It is not known whether Stoddard solvent will build up in plants or animals living in contaminated soil or water, but some of the chemicals that make up Stoddard solvent might build up in these situations.

How might I be exposed to Stoddard solvent?

Using products containing Stoddard solvent such as a paint or paint thinner, and breathing the vapors, or getting the vapors in your eyes.
Breathing contaminated air where Stoddard solvent is manufactured, used, or spilled.
Breathing contaminated air at or near hazardous waste sites.
Drinking or bathing in contaminated water.
Ingesting contaminated soil or water near waste sites containing Stoddard solvent.
Touching contaminated soil or water.
How can Stoddard solvent affect my health?

Most of the information on the health effects of Stoddard solvent comes from studies in which it is breathed; there are fewer studies of exposure to the eyes or skin.

Exposure to Stoddard solvent in the air can affect your nervous system and cause dizziness, headaches, or a prolonged reaction time. It can also cause eye, skin, or throat irritation.

Rats, cats, and dogs that breathed in large amounts of Stoddard solvent for several hours suffered seizures. Breathing Stoddard solvent has caused bronchitis in guinea pigs, but neither seizures nor bronchitis have been reported when humans breathed it. The effects of swallowing Stoddard solvent are not known.

It is not known whether Stoddard solvent can cause birth defects or affect reproduction.

How likely is Stoddard solvent to cause cancer?

The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) has determined that Stoddard solvent is not classifiable as to its carcinogenicity to humans.

Very few studies have been located that study the carcinogenic effects of Stoddard solvent in humans or animals.

Is there a medical test to show whether I've been exposed to Stoddard solvent?

There is no routinely used test to show whether you have been exposed to Stoddard solvent. Because Stoddard solvent is a mixture of many chemicals, some of these chemicals can be detected in your breath, blood, urine, and fat. However, the tests cannot tell you if you have been exposed to the specific mixture of chemicals found in Stoddard solvent. They also cannot tell whether you will suffer any health effects.

Has the federal government made recommendations to protect human health?

The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) has set a maximum exposure limit of 500 parts of Stoddard solvent per 1 million parts of air (500 ppm) for an 8-hour workday, 40-hour workweek.

The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) recommends that the average workplace air levels not be more than 60 ppm in workplace air for a 10-hour workday, 40-hour workweek
Old Jun 12, 2003 | 10:16 AM
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Well, I was simply going to say that my experiences with it were not the best. But I guess I kinda got beat to it

I used it once and took it back. It was a b*tch to use
Old Jun 13, 2003 | 12:54 AM
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Wow KevinSS really has the run down on the NuFinish. Now i Know why cleans up the inside of the exhaust tips so well, and i can possibly get cancer while doing it. Now i'm gonna have to find a new use for.
Old Jun 13, 2003 | 03:40 PM
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Dont use nufinish on a dark color paint. It will crack the clear coat & paint over time. I know of 3 cars (all different makes) that this happened to.
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