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S100 or Pinnacle on top of tons of zaino=the best durability AND shine?

Old Jan 31, 2003 | 02:44 PM
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S100 or Pinnacle on top of tons of zaino=the best durability AND shine?

If I put either S100 or Pinnacle on top of Zaino will I get the best of both worlds? I saw someone do Liquid Glass and then Z2. That looked amazing. What do you guys think about this? Anyone ever tried it? I want to get an abnoxiously shiny car and although Zaino is good it isnt the best in initial shine.

My thought is if I use Zaino first.... ill get the lasting B+ shine... and if I put S100 on second.... ill get the initial A+ shine. Or do you guys say no?
Old Feb 1, 2003 | 04:55 AM
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There is no advantage to topping synthetic products with carnuaba, the carnauba does not have the optical clarity, and is yellowish in color. If you like the oil look and do not mind waxing your car once a month at least try P21S, it is a great wax for shine do to it's high oil content, that maybe the look you want.
Old Feb 1, 2003 | 08:22 AM
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You will get an increase in wetness (oils), depth and shine. P21S is a good place to start. It is a white carnuaba that will not "yellow" or create a tint to the color of your car. Clarity? Well unless you have some writing on your car you will probably not detect any change. If you go the Pinnacle Souveran route you will get a darkening of the color via re-emphasis of the base colorcoat pigments. I have used both and continue to do so on top of a sealant ( Blackfire). But this is a personal preference. After 30+ years of detailing with carnuaba I just enjoy their appearances on my garage queen's (Z28) and never driven classics's finishes ( carnuaba only no sealants). On my daily driver ( silver Escort) Zaino is great. I layered 70+ coats of Z2 and Z5 on my Z28 but never got the results ( carnuaba's wet,depth, and richness) I love. The Z28 looked great but not superior to my carnauba only cars.
Remember that Zaino states that its durability is affected by topping with a carnuaba so your "best of both world's" might be compromised. You might consider a sealant like Klasse with proven durability and shine that is made to be topped with a carnuaba. I can not state Blackfire's durability because I have never tested it ( car has never seen bad weather in 8.5 years) but I love knowing that a paint sealant is in place.
If you do not like the results of the P21S/Souveran experiment you can always do a Dawn wash or wait about 3-4 weeks Z7 wash, Z6 and re-Zaino. Actually if you like the look you could once very 2-3 months strip the P21S/Souveran and add a couple of layers of Z2/5 and than re-top. Zaino is so easy to use that doing this is no big deal. In terms of using P21S/Souveran you will not believe how easy applying a wax can be. Wipe on - wipe off and let cure 24 hrs. Another good thing about this combo is that you can continie to use your Z6 QD on both. There are better QD's for this application (ie Clearkote's Quik Shine, Duragloss, EO Wet, etc) but from my experience the Z6 is hard to beat if you already have some. Seek the "look" you desire and realize the added work that my be involved to maintain your protection. Hope this helps.

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