Sure its his mistake for not specifying till the last minute that he needed it for a V8 and not V6.
But that would be a common mistake made by most people. Especially since the board consists of mostly V8 cars.
However it is your responsibilty as a good seller to properly identify what product you are selling. I believe Katfishracing is in the right here. I however would never do business with Cooley346.

 

I'm 100% with Ford on this one - the seller should take just as much responsibility as the buyer (if not more) for this type of misunderstanding. I think anyone with even an ounce of class would make things right over a dumb misunderstanding like this ... instead, he chooses to screw a fellow member on a technicality.

A crying shame that $110 will buy Cooley346's integrity/credibility ... definitely on my 'bad sellers' list.

 

Well, to sum it all up then: I personally would not hesitate one bit to deal with KatFishRacing as a result of this thread. I never heard of him before this thread, but he seems like a standup and reasonable guy. The fact that several impartial people are saying a refund is in order should tell you something. Oh well, some people just don't get it...

Cooley346 - Justify keeping the money however makes you feel best...or do the RIGHT thing, it's up to you.

 

Thanks for agreeing with my guys. Im sure it makes it a little easier on Katfish to know that we support him.

Cooley however just ruined ever making another sale on the board for $110. Why oh why

 

It seems like both parties involved are honest and should come to a reasonable agreement,

Its not like either one of you did not recieve the part or money,

Just a little miscommunication

 

Nah, i believe you could prove criminal intent, everyone knows a V6 pcm is not gonna sell for $110, yet he sold it for that price anyways, not to mention the guy has no intent on refunding money even though its just a mixup.

Also he admitted to knowing in the paypal that he wanted it for a formula. You own an f-body and dont know what a formula is

And you say both parties are honest and should come to a reasonable agreement. Is not shipping the PCM back and getting a refund minus the cost of shipping not reasonable?

 

I'd like to believe that, BUT ... Let's say you post a wanted add for a '93 A4 PCM. It doesn't take a genius to realize that out of a 100 board members who see it, darn near 100 of them will assume the poster wants a V8 PCM unless he stated otherwise. Lets take it a step further and say some completely brainless (but well intentioned) member replies that he has a PCM, but wrongly assumes the original poster wanted a V6 PCM. No foul yet, just someone that might not be too sharp. Buyer/seller agree on a price, then buyer sends a PayPal with the topic 'formula A4 PCM' ... BOOM If the seller didn't have a clue before now, he sure as hell does now. Immediately, he should have clicked on the paypal refund button and explained the misunderstanding to the buyer. Not quite how it played out in this case, now is it? In my eyes, the seller is nothing more than a small time scam artist that knowingly took advantage of another board member. The fact that he's pleading ignorance and blaming the entire thing on the buyer blows my mind!

 

Hes not pleading ignorance, its just his morals are getting in the way. LAMEST....excuse....EVER!

 

I do need to say thanks to everyone for reading this thread and making up their own minds on it. Hopefully, things can move on and let this whole deal die.

Mike

 

Bah, where's the fun in that! J/K

Don't know if you ended up getting the RIGHT part yet, but perhaps someone will step up and offer you a good deal on one. Who knows, maybe one of the programming guys deal with V6 PCM's and can offer you some sort of trade. Good luck to you!

 

We actually found a company here in Illinois that can repair the computer for less than I can find a used one.

 

just my opinion but there's no way i would just give someone 24 hours to reply. people have lives, work, etc..... no one just sits on the comuter all day every day just waiting for an email or pm to come in. if you do get a life. i personaly never get achance to check my pm's but maybe ounce a week. leasons learned here:

* be descriptive in what you want. there is no such thing as too much information.
* give people a chance to reply to your emails and they will more likely deal with you on a positive level
* make sure what you are selling is exactly what they want/need.
* back up what you sell. you dont need to warranty what you sell, but make sure it's good, and works. (seen on other posts)
* dont threaten people unless you have gotten nowhere with them. that doesnt mean, that they havent replied to you yet. like i said give them a chance before you start threatening them.

i am not taking any sides on this. i think that if katfish racing appologized for the way he came off in that email, and explained that he was getting worried for the lack of a reply, cooley346 should accept it and work out something that they both can agree on. call me a dreamer.

all it takes is a wrong interpitation and a good transaction just went bad. i think that is what happened here. i know if these were all the facts and no one is exaggerating, i would have copped an attitude after receiving that email as my 1st email.

work it out and post something positive.

this is just 1 more issue that minimizes the dealings i do here.

 

Ahmen to that bra. I've thought about buying stuff off this board, but concluded that the potential aggravation just aint worth it...all the bad apples have ruined it for the rest of us, which sux, but se la vie...

 

Are you kidding me? If you're making a transaction whether it be selling parts, or buying a part you need, you take care of business before pleasure. Giving someone 24 hours to respond might be a bit hasty, but I don't feel that 48 hours is. In this instance, Katfish waited 5 days (after sending that PM) to send him the "nasty" ( ) e-mail. I don't think he was the least bit unrealistic.

Bottom line here, is there is a lot of people out there who are not responsible enough to sell items on a timely basis. It's sort of like what it would be like if you sent money to a vendor, and you didn't hear ANYTHING back from them for a week. I know I wouldn't be comfortable with that.

 

I don't know how much these things cost. I just went $10 lower that what one of yalls supporting vendors said he would sell it for. So if you say that I ripped him off because of price maybe you guys should have a chat with your vendors for screwing you. Not that they are, like I said I don't know what these should be priced at, Just saying that if I screwed him on price your vendors were going to screw him worse. Also according to the thread it seems that the vendor was selling the same part I was. Maybe not. That's just how it seemed to me. Like some of you said, After that e-mail I totally said no-way. If I would have got an e-amil saying "hey dude what's up, I pmed you a couple of days ago but heard nothing. Did you get the pm. Well just get back to me and tell me what's going on. I have a problem I'm hoping you can help me with". If I would have got something even close to that I would have rectified this situation. Though I would not have wanted to because on electrical parts people tend to get the part they need and then say it wasn't right and return the bad part. That's why businesses don't let people return electrical parts for any reason. BUT I would have anyways just to keep a good name. But I can see that most of you people on here don't think that kindness can get you the results you want. Like I said, if I would have recieved a nice e-mail things might be different. Also no one has ever had a problem with me. The only things that people have to say about me are very positive. With the exception of the majority of you here. I do however appreciate the people who replied to this thread with some sense and true unbias. They said nothing good nor bad about anyone but just stated their opinion. Those people would be Rocks94Z28 and borden3.