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Old Aug 28, 2003 | 10:27 PM
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Holy CRAP man... with only $20k I'd be running 10s easily Where'd the money go?
Trust me, the car was easily capable of 10's, if not 9's with the nitrous hooked up - it was just missing traction and a good driver .

Look in the sig for my old setup (blower and nitrous have come off on my way back to stock)

BTW that was me on the highway this evening - holy **** your CRX stands out with that Coast Guard color scheme.
Old Aug 29, 2003 | 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by blue 79 Z/28
what would you do? drop a SBC in it?
First $15k: Precision SC61 turbo ($1k), DART B20 block ($2k), Pauter rods & Endyn roller-wave pistons ($2k), stock GSR shortblock for misc. bottom-end pieces incl. crankshaft ($2k), ACL bearing kit ($100), stock B16A top-end with GSR/B16A2/B16A3 cams ($1k), Full Race turbo manifold + intercooler, TiAL BOV & wastegate ($3k), JDM B16A SiR-1 transmission with Quaife LSD ($2k). Hondata S200B with RC 880 injectors ($2k tops). All that = bulletproof top end, good to 30psi boost and roughly 500hp. Just have to throw a Walbro 255lph F/I pump in the mix with some good ole' 116-proof And of course build it yourself!

Remaining $5k: Gator Racing Stage 3 axles + upgraded hubs ($1k estimate), custom Eibach springs (1k lb rear, probably about 300lb front), Koni Yellows ($1k total for springs + shocks), MT ET Drags & 13" Bogarts ($1k), TUNING + misc machining/balancing costs ($2k).

That is all With that combo your great-great-grandpa could run 10s.

Draco, I thought it might've been someone from Z28 And yes my car is very recognizable Stupid riceboy stickers!
Old Aug 31, 2003 | 10:27 AM
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A few excuses here

http://www.ls1camaro.net/myegallery....orderby=titleA
Old Aug 31, 2003 | 12:22 PM
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How about this Ricer man. I have found many problem with your claiming. Working transmissions for a living you are totally blowing your self on the gear ratio thing. What We only have one gear? Hmmm.. A six speed with double over drive seems to have more then one gear. NOW take the 350Ft TQ most here make stock and put it through a set of 4.10s and try your numbers again. add to this a gutted out f-body is UNDER 3,000 with driver and cage and you start loosing even more. THEN add the new LS1 guys shifting at 8k all day long....With 400+Ci(Oh sorry 6.6L+) engines.

HP? You are going to spend $15k to get 500hp? Heck I am cranking out 500hp at the motor NOW! with a STOCK short block! This is with WELL under $5k in HP mods.

FWD is NOT a superior chassis. It is just cheap and that is why they are made. You check with any real racer and they will tell you not to waste your time with the unless class rules make you. Pick up one of the latest Ipmort mags and read ANY of the Drifter comments on the subject. Ever notice the Fastest imports are RWD or AWD?

Next you are going to say I have no clue? Problem is I started with the FWD car that got this craze going...and it was NOT an import. Twelve years ago I had a low 13sec Shelby Charger. Bone stock motor and Turbo. I had $140 in mods...A Custom Shelby 18# Ecm. Got it at the dealer. This car kicked azz! Then again how would I know? OH my other car at the time was a 10 Second 67 Camaro....

This car had all the same problems FWD cars still have.

I am starting to look for an inport to build. You won't like it though. I am ripping the motor and trans out of the front and putting it in the back where it belongs! Ala Fiero and MR2.


For the rest I have seen FWD cars here at PR. One that comes to mind is a Probe in ITE. He is usually behind the Corvettes and F-body's in the class He gethers them up in the twistys then get totaly wasted anytime there is more then a 100ft of striaghts. He always makes a resectable showing in the class.

Ricer boy here is just going to **** big green cookies when the new motor is done. 700hp for around $8K BEFORE a power adder and 900-1,000+ with Power adder That is with a STOCK PCM. If I go to a FAST I can change the cam and shift at 8,500 for another 100+HP N/A(all motor)


Not to bad for a car that will be capable of running a 9 sec pass and still tearing up the road course or AX.
OH Yeah it will still be packing a full inteior with PS,PW,A/C,PDL,Stereo and cage with saftey equipment.

Now at this point you are saying Bull $#!t. Ask anyone here that knows or knows of me. I talk the talk and walk the walk and when it comes to real world HP? I can usually pull out enough to cover the score.

Ellis
"Current 'Fastest stock Short block record holder' in PNW"

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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 12:55 PM
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by OneFlyn95z28
How about this Ricer man. I have found many problem with your claiming. Working transmissions for a living you are totally blowing your self on the gear ratio thing. What We only have one gear? Hmmm.. A six speed with double over drive seems to have more then one gear. NOW take the 350Ft TQ most here make stock and put it through a set of 4.10s and try your numbers again. add to this a gutted out f-body is UNDER 3,000 with driver and cage and you start loosing even more. THEN add the new LS1 guys shifting at 8k all day long....With 400+Ci(Oh sorry 6.6L+) engines.

HP? You are going to spend $15k to get 500hp? Heck I am cranking out 500hp at the motor NOW! with a STOCK short block! This is with WELL under $5k in HP mods.

FWD is NOT a superior chassis. It is just cheap and that is why they are made. You check with any real racer and they will tell you not to waste your time with the unless class rules make you. Pick up one of the latest Ipmort mags and read ANY of the Drifter comments on the subject. Ever notice the Fastest imports are RWD or AWD?

Next you are going to say I have no clue? Problem is I started with the FWD car that got this craze going...and it was NOT an import. Twelve years ago I had a low 13sec Shelby Charger. Bone stock motor and Turbo. I had $140 in mods...A Custom Shelby 18# Ecm. Got it at the dealer. This car kicked azz! Then again how would I know? OH my other car at the time was a 10 Second 67 Camaro....

This car had all the same problems FWD cars still have.

I am starting to look for an inport to build. You won't like it though. I am ripping the motor and trans out of the front and putting it in the back where it belongs! Ala Fiero and MR2.


For the rest I have seen FWD cars here at PR. One that comes to mind is a Probe in ITE. He is usually behind the Corvettes and F-body's in the class He gethers them up in the twistys then get totaly wasted anytime there is more then a 100ft of striaghts. He always makes a resectable showing in the class.

Ricer boy here is just going to **** big green cookies when the new motor is done. 700hp for around $8K BEFORE a power adder and 900-1,000+ with Power adder That is with a STOCK PCM. If I go to a FAST I can change the cam and shift at 8,500 for another 100+HP N/A(all motor)


Not to bad for a car that will be capable of running a 9 sec pass and still tearing up the road course or AX.
OH Yeah it will still be packing a full inteior with PS,PW,A/C,PDL,Stereo and cage with saftey equipment.

Now at this point you are saying Bull $#!t. Ask anyone here that knows or knows of me. I talk the talk and walk the walk and when it comes to real world HP? I can usually pull out enough to cover the score.

Ellis
"Current 'Fastest stock Short block record holder' in PNW"
well said
Old Aug 31, 2003 | 06:04 PM
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 10:25 PM
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Old Sep 1, 2003 | 12:07 PM
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I raced and beat this ricer and at the next light I said, " Get a real muscle car". His excuse, well his reason was, " I can't afford one of those".
Old Sep 2, 2003 | 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by OneFlyn95z28
How about this Ricer man. I have found many problem with your claiming. Working transmissions for a living you are totally blowing your self on the gear ratio thing. What We only have one gear? Hmmm.. A six speed with double over drive seems to have more then one gear. NOW take the 350Ft TQ most here make stock and put it through a set of 4.10s and try your numbers again. add to this a gutted out f-body is UNDER 3,000 with driver and cage and you start loosing even more. THEN add the new LS1 guys shifting at 8k all day long....With 400+Ci(Oh sorry 6.6L+) engines.
Hmm, if you knew anything about transmissions, you could tell me how strong an OD gear is...? Can you say, ka-BOOM?

Oh, and why would you want a six-speed? Would it be (possibly) so you could benefit from gearing? Try again, tranny man...

Notice that a gutted f-body is under 3000 lbs? Is that supposed to be special? A gutted EF is about 1600 lbs with the cage.

Originally posted by OneFlyn95z28
HP? You are going to spend $15k to get 500hp? Heck I am cranking out 500hp at the motor NOW! with a STOCK short block! This is with WELL under $5k in HP mods.
Have a cookie!

Originally posted by OneFlyn95z28
FWD is NOT a superior chassis. It is just cheap and that is why they are made. You check with any real racer and they will tell you not to waste your time with the unless class rules make you. Pick up one of the latest Ipmort mags and read ANY of the Drifter comments on the subject. Ever notice the Fastest imports are RWD or AWD?
Have another cookie! Bragging must make you feel special! Who said FWD was any good? Not me! Try reading my posts again, knee-jerk responses suck A$$.

And BTW, drifting is ricey. It's showboating. It's NOT real racing, so why would I read a drifter's comment on anything? I don't care about showboating.

And BTW - the fastest imports right now are primarily FWD.

Originally posted by OneFlyn95z28
Next you are going to say I have no clue? Problem is I started with the FWD car that got this craze going...and it was NOT an import. Twelve years ago I had a low 13sec Shelby Charger. Bone stock motor and Turbo. I had $140 in mods...A Custom Shelby 18# Ecm. Got it at the dealer. This car kicked azz! Then again how would I know? OH my other car at the time was a 10 Second 67 Camaro....

This car had all the same problems FWD cars still have.
Actually, the FWD car that got the craze going was definitely not a Chrysler. It was a VW. But do I care? No.

Originally posted by OneFlyn95z28
I am starting to look for an inport to build. You won't like it though. I am ripping the motor and trans out of the front and putting it in the back where it belongs! Ala Fiero and MR2.
*thumbup* That's cool. Why would I not like it though?

Originally posted by OneFlyn95z28
For the rest I have seen FWD cars here at PR. One that comes to mind is a Probe in ITE. He is usually behind the Corvettes and F-body's in the class He gethers them up in the twistys then get totaly wasted anytime there is more then a 100ft of striaghts. He always makes a resectable showing in the class.
A Probe? Probe drivers are weird.

Originally posted by OneFlyn95z28
Ricer boy here is just going to **** big green cookies when the new motor is done. 700hp for around $8K BEFORE a power adder and 900-1,000+ with Power adder That is with a STOCK PCM. If I go to a FAST I can change the cam and shift at 8,500 for another 100+HP N/A(all motor)
Why would I **** anything? Power is nothing. Anyone can make power. Power does not equal speed, however. But keep quoting #s, because #s really matter

You want cheap power, buy a Camaro. Have I said anything else? Read my posts again.

Originally posted by OneFlyn95z28
Not to bad for a car that will be capable of running a 9 sec pass and still tearing up the road course or AX.
OH Yeah it will still be packing a full inteior with PS,PW,A/C,PDL,Stereo and cage with saftey equipment.
I'll believe it when I see it. I'll also believe that you're going to be replacing all those lightweight, high-end parts rather regularly... probably too regularly to see any real race time.

Originally posted by OneFlyn95z28
Now at this point you are saying Bull $#!t. Ask anyone here that knows or knows of me. I talk the talk and walk the walk and when it comes to real world HP? I can usually pull out enough to cover the score.
Wow, real hp #s are... just #s. Talk the talk? Yeah I bet you do

Originally posted by OneFlyn95z28
Ellis
"Current 'Fastest stock Short block record holder' in PNW"
Keep talkin' the talk, Ellis. Seems like you do a LOT of that - without having any real value to add to the discussion. Come back when you have something to add that isn't "I'm-so-special" this or "look-at-me" that.... 'cause when you break it down, what you just said amounts to a whole lot of NOTHING.

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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by OneFlyn95z28


Ellis
"Current 'Fastest stock Short block record holder' in PNW"
so whats the restrictions on this? all cars? GM only? camaro only? blue camaro? with your exact options? lol i can think of several people that are alot faster then you with a stock short block! or is it LT1 only? LS1? hell i know a stang with a stock short block that goes 9's about a handful of cars that run deep into the 10's easy. thats a pretty bold statement to make
Old Sep 2, 2003 | 04:32 PM
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Originally posted by blue 79 Z/28
lol i can think of several people that are alot faster then you with a stock short block! or is it LT1 only? LS1? hell i know a stang with a stock short block that goes 9's about a handful of cars that run deep into the 10's easy. thats a pretty bold statement to make
FWIW I hate to throw names around... but Regan from MRP - the Civic hatch that runs 11.8 using a turbo @ about 1 bar - is also using a stock shortblock.

"Stock shortblock" isn't saying much at all!
Old Sep 2, 2003 | 04:47 PM
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simmer down kids

ellis, season aint over yet .. u hold on to that "title" while u can

and yah .. there is a 5.0L in town (quinn) who went 9.9 on a STOCK SHORTBLOCK too !! big whooppie

Ian, put a turbo in there already
Old Sep 2, 2003 | 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by sideways_Into_3rd
Ian, put a turbo in there already
I wish Definitely not this year! I should be out of debt by Christmas though... if I stick to the budget.
Old Sep 2, 2003 | 09:02 PM
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LMFAO!!!

RICER boy just came up with more excuses and want's then anyone I have ever seen hehehe

Thank you for proveing my point

79 Drag you and your slow *** ricer buddy to the track and take a few passes against SID there Hell I got you covered in my Beater Toyota LMFAO!!!

One of the fastes FWD cars in the country races at PR. Still gets his *** handed to him by RWD supras

The drifting? YUP! So stupid it is the number one spectator AUTO sport in Japan Catching on here in the states. Much harder to drift then not to. Then again they are judged on style more then speed

You guys are killing me!! I cant stop Laughing at you two!

ROTFLMFAO!!!!

Good luck to both of you in you wanna be world.

OH Yeah 11.8 WITH OUT a power adder hitting the scales at 3,800Lbs


You make repectable Imports look bad

Ellis
"Fastest most power full LT1 in My garage" LMFAO!!



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