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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 03:36 PM
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Finally, Bin Laden Airs on TV! LIVE JUST CAME IN!

Bin Laden says "the security is not in the hands of Bush, Kerry, or Al Quaida(spelling), it is in your hands, do not attack us, and we won't attack you" Also mentioning that because Bush was reading a book to children while the attacks took place, this gave them more time for further attacks.

Not good for Bush, Bin Laden states that if Bush wasn't reading "my pet goat" story to the kids after the first plane hit the building, the second ones would not of hit if he called forces into the air. This gave them 20 more minutes they did not expect to get and hit the second plane!

Bush should be in jail not running for president!

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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 04:48 PM
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Twenty minutes isnt a long time Matt. The first plane simply could have been an accident. It probably took 20 mins for top Gmen officials to get word that the plane was possibly highjacked in the first place and by that time it was way to late. Unless there was concrete prior knowledge, that second plane was going to do its damage.

This is just a feeble attempt to make Bush look like a moron with the election coming up.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 06:14 PM
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This is just a feeble attempt to make Bush look like a moron with the election coming up.
no need to try to make him look like an idiot .. he does that on his own
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 06:20 PM
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yeah im sure everybody was just waiting there for bush. nothing was being done while he was there, they are lost without him maybe he should have freaked out. that is so stupid that people would even think that after they told him they did nothing, gimme a break.

this is a sad attempt to make bush look bad right before the election. it is pathetic. funny how this comes out 4 days before voting. not over the past 3 years.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 06:48 PM
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You got to admit that american politics is a lot more interesting than canadain politics.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 08:03 PM
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Actually Bush knew about the attack way before then, FYI. When the first plane hit, he knew what was going on 100%. If he had called the forces immediately the second plane would be interecepted, what did he do? Sit for 20 minutes? Yeah exactly, noone does that I don't care, he's a pathetic embarrassment for a president, I spit on him.
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Elgyn
You got to admit that american politics is a lot more interesting than canadain politics.
yeah, interesting in the same way Tonya Harding elicited interest in ice skating! I'm a flag waving American (naturalized, so it means a LOT to me), but I'll tell ya what, the last 4 years have been embarrassing & troubling for us, suffering these fools down here. Bush is NOT my president by the way. He's just the guy that stole the presidency from the REAL Presidential election winner....not that I'm bitter or anything. A few short days away from revenge, sweet revenge.....

sure Bin laden's timing is "funny" how it comes out now not over the last 3 years. Bin Laden hates the Bush family & is surely working to influence the US election. This should be no surprise. What is surprising is when Al Quaida succeeds in influencing world politics & sentiment (Madrid for example), despite the fact that almost everyone is aware that's what their trying to do. Tony Blair better be protecting his assets too, they're gunning for him too (not lerally I don't think so much as force him from office)

Enjoy the show guys, it's gonna be a funny few days until tuesday!
Old Oct 29, 2004 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bunker
Actually Bush knew about the attack way before then, FYI. When the first plane hit, he knew what was going on 100%. If he had called the forces immediately the second plane would be interecepted
Hmmmm ok, I dont remember that coming out for certain other than it being mentioned that all the clues were there to see what was possibly going to happen but nobody did anything about it. Call it a severe lack of communication between internal gov. agencies.

I still dont think they could have got to that plane in time regardless, unless they were already flying circles around Manhatten.

Bush's time is up and I sure as hell wont be disappointed to see him go. I dont think he has done anything right and has literally been an embarrassment to himself and his country.
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bunker
, Bin Laden states that if Bush wasn't reading "my pet goat" story to the kids after the first plane hit the building, the second ones would not of hit if he called forces into the air. This gave them 20 more minutes they did not expect to get and hit the second plane!

Bush should be in jail not running for president!
Yeah. Whatever.

Weather or not US intelligance did or did not know about the attacks is completely and utterly, freaking immaterial. Lets focus or who is the Evil doer here. The VICTIM is NOT responsable for the henious acts of the ATTACKER.

Give me a G*D damned break. I don't care if Bin Laden gave Bush a personal call, 24 hours before the attack with all the details. BIN LADEN is the perpetrator of the crime. Period. End of discussion. Case closed. Nothing more to discuss.

If your female friend were being stalked by a man that was known by both she and you that he was planning to attack her, and he did attack her, does that mean YOU are responsable for his deeds because you KNEW he was going to do it.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I don't care about Bush one way or the other, but the fact that the Bush haters seem to want to make HIM responsable for the act of the criminals.....I just don't get it.......Lets focus on the REAL criminal.

Let me also pose this question. If Al Gore had won the election, what do you believe he would have done in the same circumstances? NO country, especially the US, is going to just sit there, allow 9/11 to take place and then go to 'therapy sessions' to ask why no one likes them.

Mistakes made? Of course? Decisions are being made thousands of times a day by people in authority who 99.9% of the time are genuinely doing their best and doing what they honestly believe to be the best solution. Walk a mile in their shoes.

IMHO
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by StreamlineZ28
yeah im sure everybody was just waiting there for bush. nothing was being done while he was there, they are lost without him maybe he should have freaked out. that is so stupid that people would even think that after they told him they did nothing, gimme a break.

this is a sad attempt to make bush look bad right before the election. it is pathetic. funny how this comes out 4 days before voting. not over the past 3 years.
You have to look at this several ways... 1. If my leader just sat in a classroom full of people while possibly one of the greatest "accidents" in our history was happening, I would be greatly disappointed. Bush was elected to be a leader, not to sit around hopeing everything would be OK, or waiting for Big Daddy Bush and his buddy Dick to tell him what to do.
2. This also works in Bush's favour extremely well. People are freaked out of Bin Ladens threats, if he's done it before , who's to say he won't do it again? This will swing alot of the voters who are undecided or scared his way.. WHy, because he fought back before and he'd be able to do it again.

I remember when election time first started to get mentioned. I was telling my wife, I'll bet you the They'll find Saddam first and then right before the election, they'll bring in Osama.. lol. I never thought I would be so close. Fine they never cauught Osama, but yeah it is a coincidence. Personally I think it works way more in Bush's Favour then it does in Kerry's favour. It scares people into voting for Bush. What surprises me is why the terror alert never changed the way it did before when even the mention of Osama had the entire air force flying sorties up and down the coast. LOL
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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 97TA-WS6-Con

The VICTIM is NOT responsable for the henious acts of the ATTACKER.

Give me a G*D damned break. I don't care if Bin Laden gave Bush a personal call, 24 hours before the attack with all the details. BIN LADEN is the perpetrator of the crime. Period. End of discussion. Case closed. Nothing more to discuss.

but the fact that the Bush haters seem to want to make HIM responsable for the act of the criminals.....I just don't get it.......Lets focus on the REAL criminal.

Shaun, you have a point but the issue that gets clouded is more than just bush vs bin laden. You have to wonder why the US helped out Osama and why after helping him Osama who was a multi - multi millionare would turn agioanst the US. WHo do you think really is the the real victims? Personally I think that people in Osama's shoes define what happen on Sept 11 as a sort of "payback" I know that sounds sick but I'm trying to get people to see it from the other side. Osama even said it in his video . He said, it doesn't matter if you vote for Bush or Kerry, they are both the same in Foreign Policy. IT is you the American people that can change foreign Policy. YOu leave us alone and we will leave you alone. .

I also question Bushes decision to invade Iraq. Yeah Saddam was a brutal dictator, but all those people being massacred in Africa, in Sudan and Liberis (sp) were just dying of old age???? Oh wait there was no oil. hmm maybe that's why he never went there...
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 01:36 AM
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I agree Sandeep. I think it push the vote TOO Bush.

I sure would not want a limp wristed liberal leading my country when its time to kick some A$$.

"Well maybe if I invited them over we could become friends and they won't hurt me again"
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 01:37 AM
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watch fahrenheit 911.

that is all.
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 01:51 AM
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You make good points Sandeep. I personally do not believe the war was about oil. The BEST case scenario for the US is to have the whole region settle down and get along. That is certainly in their long term benefit. Stirring the pot is not helping the oil argument.

I do concede that the Iraq war appears to have been justified on a house of sand. The US appears to have been looking for a reason to attack and partly felt that the end justified the means. And it doesn't. I do believe that Bush and the British PM geniunly believed they had a case for WMD but....

I feel for the US, I'm sure they went into that war, genuinely believing to their very core, that 97.8% of the population would be happy to see them, to relieve them of their tyrant and give them the opportunity to develop freedom and democracy. That appears to have been niave.(spl?) Clearly there is a greater percentage then originally thought that want them out ASAP. The barbaric acts of the scum that behead innocents.......in fact that behead ANYONE.......are completely counterproductive. The US cannot possably leave the country whilst being extorted by these animals. In fact, if everyone in Iraq just stood around and said, "...thanks for coming by, its been great having you. Nope, everything is fine now, we're good from here. Bye." then the US would have been on their way home. The US DOES NOT WANT TO BE THERE. You can't possibly believe that they do. But they CAN'T leave the country before it is standing on its own two feet. The quicker these murders STFU, the sooner the US will be on its way.

And you are 110% correct. If the developed, free world wants to "help" the oppressed of the world, then they should draw a line in the sand and fight any injustice no matter where. The Sudan, the Balkans, Rawanda. The fact that the UN (US, Britain, Canada, everyone else for that matter) stood around and sipped martinis is a crime of civilized society. We should be ashamed.

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Old Oct 30, 2004 | 02:03 AM
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One thing i dont get is why everyone is so hung up on catching Bin Laden. Do they think catching him is gonna fix everything, Bin Laden is not terrorism he is just the most famous recent face of it. catching him wont stop terrorism just like catching saddam hasnt stopped anything in iraq.

They need to focus on Al Qaida not one person. Killing the presdient wouldnt make the US leave iraq what makes people think killing or capturing Bin Laden is gonna make the US any safer.

and another thing from that stupid Tape about dont attack us and we wont attack you. WTF they flew planes into the world trade centers.

if bush hadnt sat around we would have never gotten the other plane into the WTC, if you hadnt hijacked 4 planes none of this would have happened. This seems to me made to try and sway the vote but i think it is gonna scare people more to vote for bush. i think when it comes to terrorism the US feels safer with bush leading.

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