actually it was a nitrous solenoid not opening.

 

I want to make sure that everybody knows who posted to this thread understands that I never said a wet shot is a bad kit, I just said why I will never go to a wet setup. Whether it was a freak thing or not. I don't want that freak thing to happen to me. There are both good dry and wet kits out there that work extremely well, I just happen to go with a dry kit. Seen and heard to many bad things about wet kits and have had personal succes with a dry kit.

 

Im still trying to figure out how AN fitting can unscrew its self............

also......every time Im going to take my SS out and run on the spray.......I do a run with the bottle out of the car to see if the fuel solinoid is spraying fuel....
i have never had a problem...the car just runs realy fat and boggs some...and I have done it 100's of time with a carb setup too.....and never had it back fire....

 

Single nozzle wet kits scare the bejesus out of me.

Why? EFI intakes were not made to flow fuel. They pretty much always puddle.

What happens if you get a backfire with puddles of fuel in the intake?

Looks like this:

 

would the weiand LS6 intake manifold be better if i'm gonna run a wet kit or should i just run 42lb injectors and run dry? my car is under warrenty and i'm not gonna run more than a 125 shot till warrenty is up. input guys input..... BTW- its an 00 LS1

 

In my humble opinion, and I'm POSITIVE that people will disagree...

I wouldn't run a wet kit on an EFI car, not a single nozzle wet kit. I would do something like the plate kit on the 5.0's that goes between the upper and lower intake, or I would do a fogger system, which is stupid overkill for a 125 shot. So my advice would be dry kit. The LS1 is proven to run well with the dry kits, IMO they are safer.

 

Plain and simple, prove it. The fuel is being sprayed into such a fine mist you would HAVE to have a major obstruction in your intake tract for it to begin puddling....and the motor is under so much vacuum during WOT I find it hard to believe a liquid would stay put anywhere for long.

IMHO, puddling is an old wives tale.

 

as i said in a previous post,show me puddling. I have sprayed everything from a chevette,to a gtp,to a z24,to trrucks and fbodies,and almost everything inbetween.NEVER had a "puddling" problem,even with the TPI intake and 5.0 stang intakes wich are supposedly famous for puddles and backfires.

it isnt a puddle that pops when you have a backfire,it's the mixture in the intake.

Dry kits are fine for small shots or BIG shots with dfi of some sort to control the bigass injectors that are needed for large dry shots.


There is a LOT of mis information about nitrous,and some guys with the puddling story and others are spreading the mis information.

 

i like my nitrous how i like my women, WET.


End of discussion

 

sure on a 5.0 intake, where the fuel has to do a complete 180, greater chance of puddling.

But the LS1 intake, there are no such 180 degree turns.

I would only spray with a NX maf kit, so it is in the middle of the air stream, but a single nozzle, on a ls1 intake, would not worry me.

Ryan.

 

Old wives tale? Did you miss that "custom" 5.0 intake? Looked pretty real to me, considering it's a friend of mine's car.

The car backfired due to a failed MSD Retard. When it backfired, the intake being full of gas pretty much made it a bomb.

I realise the LT1 and LS1 intake is a lot different from a 5.0. I just don't like taking chances. He ran the car like that for two years, against my advice and it always ran fine. But the one time it didn't cost him an intake, maf meter, K&N, throttle body inlet hose and a couple of other things. I'm sure plenty of you have run single nozzle wet kits for a long time with no problems. Congrats. I wish you the best of luck. But you can't tell me that intake would have looked like that with a dry kit.

 

FYI:

Insurance covered it. Did not cover all of the amount loss but more than blue book.

My lines did not come off, I had an intake backfire and my newly re-oiled filter caught fire. The fuel pump was shut off. I had the dual nozzle NX-Race application installed. This kit is WOT only.

If I ever use nitrous again, I will get the direct port setup.

To simply put it, an untrained track crew decided that my car was going to be a total loss.

 

It doesn't apply in this case, but I've seen several installations where the single nozzle is just threaded into the rubber intake elbow (no backing nut). Everytime the nitrous is hit, you can see the braided lines "jump". If that nozzle ever pulled out during a WOT run, you could have a flame thrower under the hood. If anyone's got their's installed this way, might want to secure the nozzle. Personnaly, mines threaded into metal.

 

Lets think about this one for a second. Which would I rather have. Pop my intake elbow, maf, and cold air off and to pieces due to my retard box not working with a wet kit, or have a DRY kit, and have the retard box not work. Seems with the added fuel, a wet kit would be a tad bit safer with that detonation wise. Just think what would happen with a DRY kit and the retard malfunction. How many times have YOU pulled the motor out of one of our cars?

Seems as if ppl who have a big nitrous sneeze are doing SOMETHING wrong. The only ones I have seen sneeze, have either A), tried purging into the motor while doing the burnout (yes, quite a moron), or B) bogged on the launch with the nitrous activated. With the proper saftey equpment, BOTH would have been avoided.

Ive been spraying a dual stage 75/100 on my car. Its a VERY in-efficiant kit. Home made thrown together and not tuned. I have been spraying this for almost half a year now without a hickup. I never spray below 3000, and never hit the rev limiter. Its running VERY fat so if fuel was going to puddle, it would have in my car.

A dry kit relies a LOT on various things. Better hope your fuel system is up to it. Basicly like an FMU, it puts a whole lot of strain on the regulator and the fuel pump. There are just as many factors to worry about in a dry kit as a wet kit. Either way, you are playing with fire(no, really!)

Kyle

 

The Sad part is ANY active action could have saved this mans car.

Any fire extinguisher could have saved the car HAD it been used properly.

To many people make it a point to run at tracks who do not enforce safety standards. Many time those tracks do not enforce them because the people are untrained and do not know any better. Those same un trained people have no training or skills in saving your car much less your body in the event of an accedent.

This is one of the reason you will see many peopl NOT racing at those tracks.

I personally am not racing at a big name track this year for those very same reasons.

If they have no clue on how to save your car how in the hell can they save your life???

I have seen many back fires and every time the hood was up and people were there to take action.

That car sitting there all by it self burning to the ground says more about what happened then anyone here could put into words..

N2O did not kill that car! Crappy track officals did!