N2O Tech Discussion for the use of Nitrous Oxide

Why does Nitrous cause detonation?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 23, 2006 | 01:16 PM
  #1  
HardcoreRM125's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,628
From: Pgh, PA
Why does Nitrous cause detonation?

I know it sounds stupid, and it probably is overly simple but ...

Seriously, what is it about spraying, that makes you have to pull timing? I know it can detonate, very violently, but the reason?

I was thinking about it today at work, I mean I know you should pull a degree ortwo for every 50 extra HP you spray, but the cooling effect of nitrous, I thought, would conteract have all the extra volume of air/fuuel to compress in the combustion chamber. Maybe it doesnt though

Apparently it helps some though as N20 cars can run a couple more degrees of timing than a FI car does. Or at least it seems like it.
Old Oct 23, 2006 | 01:57 PM
  #2  
Ray@NitroDaves's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 997
Re: Why does Nitrous cause detonation?

It is due to the increase in cylinder pressure....the more A/F mixture you force into the combustion chamber the higher the rick of detonation.
Old Oct 23, 2006 | 04:52 PM
  #3  
srsnow's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 63
Re: Why does Nitrous cause detonation?

The main reason you need to pull timing is that nitrous dramatically increases the burn rate of the fuel. You want to try and have everything burned by about 15-17 degrees after TDC. So as you add more and more nitrous the added oxygen being released speeds the burn rate up. Increased cylinder pressure can generate more heat which can lead to preignition which can cause detonation. So even if you could get enough octane to handle the amount of cylinder pressure you are generating you would still need to retard the timing to make sure that you aren't generating peak cylinder pressure too soon in the cycle.
Old Oct 23, 2006 | 08:12 PM
  #4  
Nitro Dave's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,050
From: Waco,TX
Re: Why does Nitrous cause detonation?

Originally Posted by srsnow
The main reason you need to pull timing is that nitrous dramatically increases the burn rate of the fuel. You want to try and have everything burned by about 15-17 degrees after TDC. So as you add more and more nitrous the added oxygen being released speeds the burn rate up. Increased cylinder pressure can generate more heat which can lead to preignition which can cause detonation. So even if you could get enough octane to handle the amount of cylinder pressure you are generating you would still need to retard the timing to make sure that you aren't generating peak cylinder pressure too soon in the cycle.
Great answer....
Old Oct 23, 2006 | 10:11 PM
  #5  
HardcoreRM125's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,628
From: Pgh, PA
Re: Why does Nitrous cause detonation?

Thats exactly the kind of awnser I was looking for. Thanks I appriciate.
Old Oct 24, 2006 | 04:44 AM
  #6  
oneslowz28's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,139
From: Aiken, Sc
Re: Why does Nitrous cause detonation?

verry good answer
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
RUENUF
Cars For Sale
6
Mar 13, 2016 03:37 PM
Quickss96
Cars For Sale
6
Jan 29, 2016 05:56 PM
95blkss
Parts For Sale
2
Sep 22, 2015 03:18 PM
nd4spd200
Drag Racing Technique
0
Aug 21, 2015 09:30 AM
Steve69SS396
Track Kill Stories
2
Aug 17, 2015 08:48 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:21 AM.