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can i run a 200 shot on stock motor?

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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 10:24 PM
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can i run a 200 shot on stock motor?

Just as the title says. Cold I run a 200 shot on a stock motor with a car that has 225AFR heads and a .601lift cam with some other boltons? I would run it once probably every 2months. But it is my d.d.
Old Feb 28, 2006 | 10:46 PM
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Re: can i run a 200 shot on stock motor?

ls1 or lt1
that much spray is tampering with death,i know it has been done but it is not advised!
Old Feb 28, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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Re: can i run a 200 shot on stock motor?

LS1 with a racetronis fuel system and a soon to be excellent tune when the heads and cam go in.
Old Mar 1, 2006 | 07:26 AM
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Re: can i run a 200 shot on stock motor?

if you are ready for rebuild in case you blow your engine, do it. if you don't have the money don't attempt it. i blew my engine attempting a 200 shot last year and still paying my credits cards.
For sure there are people doing 200 shot but every car it's a diferent story. IMO

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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 08:01 AM
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Re: can i run a 200 shot on stock motor?

You can, you might get one pass out of it or hundreds. I don't think a Racetronix fuel pump will be enough, you might get by on the Racetronix pump if you do a fuel rail mounted fuel pressure regulator and then run a return back to the tank (good for around 650 rwhp). Another option would be to run a dedicated fuel system for the nitrous (stand alone fuel system).

I would suggest either running a progressive controller or breaking the shot up into stages to keep the initial shock on the motor down to a minimum. That along with a good tune will help keep everything together.

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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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Re: can i run a 200 shot on stock motor?

[QUOTE=HarrisSpeedWorks]You can, you might get one pass out of it or hundreds.
this is exactly what i want to say....
Old Mar 1, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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Re: can i run a 200 shot on stock motor?

lol, it's the truth. The larger the shot is the more important it is to have all your ducks in a row. It is entirely doable and if done right could last for a while. But just remember it only takes one thing to be off and it's over, and with it being your DD I don't know if I would personally risk it (unless you have another short block (long block if a piston takes out a head) laying around).

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You can, you might get one pass out of it or hundreds.
this is exactly what i want to say....
Old Mar 1, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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Re: can i run a 200 shot on stock motor?

Forget the engine for a second. Even if the engine survives, who is to say your transmission/drivershaft/rearend are going to hang around when you throw 600-700 ft lbs of torque at them. I could easily see fragging a torque converter/clutch under that kind of stress. If not that, U-joints, 7.5" rearend, dinky axles to weak studs. Just work your way back and see what kind of damage could occur.

Bare minimum I would suggest a DS safety loop to make sure that your driveshaft doesn't decide to come through your floor in the event of driveline breakage.

My honest opinion- for a daily driver I think it is a horrible idea. If you break something racing during the weekend, I would want something to drive to work on Monday .
Old Mar 1, 2006 | 04:22 PM
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Re: can i run a 200 shot on stock motor?

If you do I want pics of the carnage!
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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Re: can i run a 200 shot on stock motor?

Yea, pics are cool video is even better!

I spray 175. Stock transmission is long gone and I have a spare rear end.

Who am I kidding, I even picked up a spare bullet recently.

Better have more than just your ducks in a row.

The fuel system, trans, and rear end should be a concern especially with a daily driver.
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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Re: can i run a 200 shot on stock motor?

My setup should hold 200 all day long..
Old Mar 3, 2006 | 05:10 PM
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Re: can i run a 200 shot on stock motor?

If you use a 200hp shot frequently you are going to substantially increase breakage and maintainence costs. It's not an all or nothing kind of thing, there is no single limit to what i"safe". It's kind of like rpm, the higher the redline and the more time you spend there the quicker something will break.

The short answer is: NO.

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Old Mar 4, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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Re: can i run a 200 shot on stock motor?

Originally Posted by 96ta(nick)
My setup should hold 200 all day long..
Did you gap your rings for 200?
Old Mar 5, 2006 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 12Second3rdgen
Did you gap your rings for 200?
The rings are gapped for 300.
Old Mar 6, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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Re: can i run a 200 shot on stock motor?

Originally Posted by 96ta(nick)
My setup should hold 200 all day long.
Never knew a 357ci forged motor could be considered stock.
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