N2O Tech Discussion for the use of Nitrous Oxide

Anyone shot w/ a rifle a full nitrous bottle by a fire?

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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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Anyone shot w/ a rifle a full nitrous bottle by a fire?

JW what might happen....

On a side note,

How long does a 10, 20 pound bottle of nitrous last?
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Montezuma
JW what might happen....

On a side note,

How long does a 10, 20 pound bottle of nitrous last?
About .3 seconds if you shoot it.
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Montezuma
JW what might happen....

On a side note,

How long does a 10, 20 pound bottle of nitrous last?
It would probably blow the fire out. Nitrous Oxide is not flammible, it merely allows you to burn more fuel and thereby create more power.

And for that we are eternally grateful
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 05:56 PM
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It would probably blow the fire out. Nitrous Oxide is not flammible, it merely allows you to burn more fuel and thereby create more power.

And for that we are eternally grateful

Nitrous is a catalyst nonetheless. Its not flammable, but it WILL make an existing fire lot bigger. OXygen is what burns. REgular air is roughly 2 parts nitrogen to 1 oxygen. Nitrous is roughly 2 oxygen : 1 nitrogen.
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 06:11 PM
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Check out these videos. If you could introduce nitrous to a fire in a manner that wouldn't just blow it out, like in liquid form or through a jet it will increase the intensity of the fire.



Old Nov 20, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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man great show but get a better video camera......
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Spinner
Nitrous is a catalyst nonetheless. Its not flammable, but it WILL make an existing fire lot bigger. OXygen is what burns. REgular air is roughly 2 parts nitrogen to 1 oxygen. Nitrous is roughly 2 oxygen : 1 nitrogen.
Agreed, but you are assuming that the fire will stay lit. Have you ever seen a tank of compressed gas explode? (don't ask how I know ).

Granted I don't really know what pressure nitrous is stored at, but that nitrogen tank was 4500psi, I just don't see your average camp fire surviving that.

And I think breathable air is closer to 4 parts Nitrogen to 1 part Oxygen.

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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 09:01 PM
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As pertaining to the how long will a 10lb nitrous bottle last the equation is .8lbs x 10 secs.= 100hp shot if i remember correctly.
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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"REgular air is roughly 2 parts nitrogen to 1 oxygen. Nitrous is roughly 2 oxygen : 1 nitrogen."

actually:


Nitrous oxide, also known as dinitrogen oxide or dinitrogen monoxide, is a chemical compound with chemical formula N2O
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 11:32 PM
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yeah it actually is nitrogen 2 parts and 1 part oxygen, hench N20. here take a read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrous_oxide
Old Nov 21, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Spinner
Nitrous is a catalyst nonetheless. Its not flammable, but it WILL make an existing fire lot bigger. OXygen is what burns. REgular air is roughly 2 parts nitrogen to 1 oxygen. Nitrous is roughly 2 oxygen : 1 nitrogen.
Nitrous is a "catalyst"..... since when? It is synthesized using a catalyst, and its decomposition can be accelerated by use of a catalyst, but it is not a catalyst.

Nitrous oxide is an oxidant, but only when it reaches 520*C (968*F) and starts to decompose into elemental nitrogen and oxygen. It will only enhance combustion when it reaches that temperature. It is classified by Federal DOT regulations as "non-flammable gas/oxidizer".

Air is 75.5% nitrogen and 23.2% oxygen by weight. N2O is 63.6% nitrogen and 36.4% oxygen.

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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 11:39 PM
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For some reason I remembered this from my Chem203 Class 2 years ago from my Arabian transfer teacher from Notre Dame. Dang was he hard haha. But great response Injuneer!


Originally Posted by Injuneer
Nitrous is a "catalyst"..... since when? It is synthesized using a catalyst, and its decomposition can be accelerated by use of a catalyst, but it is not a catalyst.

Nitrous oxide is an oxidant, but only when it reaches 520*C (968*F) and starts to decompose into elemental nitrogen and oxygen. It will only enhance combustion when it reaches that temperature. It is classified by Federal DOT regulations as "non-flammable gas/oxidizer".

Air is 75.5% nitrogen and 23.2% oxygen by weight. N2O is 63.6% nitrogen and 36.4% oxygen.

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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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Nitrous isnt flammable, but it's combustible. It's like a chemical supercharger... makes fire burn hotter and puts more pressure on the pistons during the combustion process by making more use of the fuel in the chamber when the spark plug ignites. It also contains more oxygen than air which is why the engine needs more fuel to compensate. 'Chemical supercharger'... The temp of the gas helps cram more gas in the engine than air by itself... kinda like driving your car while really cold outside x 10 haha

So in other words it shouldnt explode on it's own unless it was merely by pressure, not combustion... but it would make an existing fire more violent if it didnt get blown out in the first place. Now shoot a tank of acetylene or something and you might have a little more on your hands

Did I get it all or did I mess anything up?

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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Montezuma
JW what might happen....

On a side note,

How long does a 10, 20 pound bottle of nitrous last?
I think you've watched fast and the furious one too many times.
Old Nov 29, 2006 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Injuneer
Air is 75.5% nitrous and 23.2% oxygen by weight. N2O is 63.6% nitrogen and 36.4% oxygen.
I think you meant nitrogen



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