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Old 07-04-2006, 07:14 PM
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Re: 396ci LT1, D1SC, 58mm NOS TBI, F.A.S.T. and NOS ......

1993 396 Lt4. 250 Wet.


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sure you do ! ! !
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Doesnt matter to me what you want to believe.

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Re: 396ci LT1, D1SC, 58mm NOS TBI, F.A.S.T. and NOS ......

Somewhat hesitant about jumping into a cat (*****) fight, but here's how I'd do it. There's other ways to figure it, but if you are adding ~15% power, add about 15% more fuel.

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Re: 396ci LT1, D1SC, 58mm NOS TBI, F.A.S.T. and NOS ......

rskrause...thanks again ! I feel like i owe you something, cause everytime i am looking for help you seem to be the one to come through with quality and sound advice. You have helped me many times in the past and i appreciate every single suggestion you have ever made.. Thanks ! !


Speed density.. i am not looking to trade insults with you, you made a comment that was out of place and i told you how i felt. It doesnt matter what either of us have (car wise), cause honestly there are so very many more important things in life ! ! So you enjoy what you have and i will do the same ! !
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You are quite welcome!

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Re: 396ci LT1, D1SC, 58mm NOS TBI, F.A.S.T. and NOS ......

Originally Posted by james007moore
Excuse me ??? What kind of comment is that ?? The car runs RIGHT....This car has run 10.40 @ 137+ mph (12 psi) ...SINCE 2001 and has never had a blower or engine problem !!!!! And by the way..The A/C Blows cold, the stereo will rattle your teeth, and every single part that was put on the car from the factory is still there (except cruise control) and its a stock six speed car ! ! ! And i am hoping to run 9.80-9.90 on NOS...Can YOU (speed density) do THAT ??????
It's easy to make a gutted out car run fast but to do what James is doing with possibly a 3800+ lb raceweight is impressive imo.

Also, what rskrause said, he seems to know his stuff

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Re: 396ci LT1, D1SC, 58mm NOS TBI, F.A.S.T. and NOS ......

Are you the FAMOUS "BIG DAVE" that everyone is talking about ????

Can i have your autograph please, SIR ! ! ......You are a Legend ! ! !
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Are you the FAMOUS "BIG DAVE" that everyone is talking about ????

Can i have your autograph please, SIR ! ! ......You are a Legend ! ! !
Don't you have a job to do or have you moved on already lol
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Is That A "no" To Getting An Autograph ????
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Re: 396ci LT1, D1SC, 58mm NOS TBI, F.A.S.T. and NOS ......

JFC.
Look, since you REALLY seem to already know every damn thing, take your own best guess, since you'll just take offense at any suggestion you hear.

If you are running an LS1/LS6 style intake, I STRONGLY suggest you dyno tune and look CAREFULLY at 7/8 being lean (WBO2 per cylinder and/or EGT per cylinder not too extreme) before you shoot juice. Tuning yourself, under boost, on the street without adequate instrumentation with that combo (396, 'big' boost) is a great way to detonate and go boom.


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I have the F.A.S.T system on the car....It is an excellent system, it controls nearly everything needed for the NOS...I have a NOS TBI unit, and plenty of injector...I wasnt asking for a opinion on changing my set up i was asking for someone with knowledge in this area...You put wet on YOUR car, i prefer to try mine the way i have it set up ! ! ! ! Is that okay with YOU two ??

It is funny, all i have asked for is someone's opinion on how much fuel to add. Why do so many guys give such needless and rediculous responses ! ! ! ! ! !

The post does NOT ask if i should switch to a wet system nor does it ask which is better........So why tell me something like that...You do what you like and let me do what i like ! ! ! If you dont mind ! If you cant answer my question, or if you have a question you would like to ask then that is fine... But keep the dumb a$$ comments to yourself ! ! ! ! Please . . .

And by the way..the NOS TBI unit does NOT have NOZZLES...but i guess you didnt KNOW that !!!
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Re: 396ci LT1, D1SC, 58mm NOS TBI, F.A.S.T. and NOS ......

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JFC.
Look, since you REALLY seem to already know every damn thing, take your own best guess, since you'll just take offense at any suggestion you hear.

If you are running an LS1/LS6 style intake, I STRONGLY suggest you dyno tune and look CAREFULLY at 7/8 being lean (WBO2 per cylinder and/or EGT per cylinder not too extreme) before you shoot juice. Tuning yourself, under boost, on the street without adequate instrumentation with that combo (396, 'big' boost) is a great way to detonate and go boom.

I am assuming that you are joking....RIGHT ?? I sure hope so, cause just in case your reading ability is below standard (which it obviously is) THIS is an LT1 LT1 LT1 LT1 LT1....but you were so caught up in making a senseless comment that you failed to even understand what this post is all about ! ! !

And who said i was TUNING on the street, with BIG boost ! ! You are being pretty presumptuous ! ! But i guess that is just who you are ! ! The car is "already" tuned, the nitrous has NOTHING to do with the engine tune....they are totally seperate (as in two) ...but i am sure you know that, RIGHT ???

Thanks for your comment 94camaroZ28, it really puts things in perspective for me ! ! Is everyone in baltimore so...........ahh never mind, you know what ails you.

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Re: 396ci LT1, D1SC, 58mm NOS TBI, F.A.S.T. and NOS ......

Originally Posted by james007moore
I am assuming that you are joking....RIGHT ?? I sure hope so, cause just in case your reading ability is below standard (which it obviously is) THIS is an LT1 LT1 LT1 LT1 LT1....but you were so caught up in making a senseless comment that you failed to even understand what post this is all about ! ! !

And who said i was TUNING on the street, with BIG boost ! ! You are bieng pretty presumptuous ! ! Buy i guess that is just who you are ! ! The car is "already" tuned, the nitrous has NOTHING to do with the engine tune....they are totally seperate (as in two) ...but i am sure you know that, RIGHT ???

Thanks for your comment 94camaroZ28, it really puts things in perspective for me ! ! Is everyone in baltimore so...........ahh never mind, you know what ails you.
Man I love this post
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Re: 396ci LT1, D1SC, 58mm NOS TBI, F.A.S.T. and NOS ......

James...............I agree with what has been said. On the FAST system you can add enrichment on a poweradder calibration. Add about 15% across the board from say 3000 rpms and up and that will be a good start. Make sure and monitor your air/fuel though. On that same calibration you might take out 2-4 more degrees of timing as well.

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Re: 396ci LT1, D1SC, 58mm NOS TBI, F.A.S.T. and NOS ......

THANK you for your advice fast93Z, that is all i asked for !......AND WOW !!! 9.85@140 holy $h!t thats NICE ! !

I had set to take out 6 degrees of time, on top of what is already taken out for boost. I have the timing set very conservative for safety so i was thinking 6 more degrees should be plenty. Do you run a FAST system on your "wicked" set-up ??? Can you tell me a little more about your set up...cause i wanna be like YOU ! what kind of 60 foot times are you getting ??
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