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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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1 or 2 bottles with Dual stage

I'm upgrading to a dual stage slowly but surely. Right now I am trying to round up all the little things I need to make the kit work.

Now, should I run 1 or 2 bottles with the dual stage? I like the way my one bottle is mounted but if I upgrade to two I am going to do the rear seat delete and mount both bottle behind the rear seats.

If I do go with two bottles, should I just run a line from each bottle to each solenoid y them together at the bottles then Y then off to each solenoid??
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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Also, I have a nitrous pressure gauge hooked up to one bottle now, it is an electric autometeer unit. I can't use one gauge to monitor two bottles can I?
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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If you take two bottles and Y them together it wouldnt be any different then having one bottle as the pressure will equilize between the two.
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 97formulakid
Also, I have a nitrous pressure gauge hooked up to one bottle now, it is an electric autometeer unit. I can't use one gauge to monitor two bottles can I?

I would Y them together at the bottle then seperate at the solenoids

to run 1 gauge with the above set up...you would use a manifold off the Y at the bottle...this would read the pressure at the main feed line.

This would actually be better than a single bottle due to more bottle volume and less pressure drop over a run...but you would need 2 heaters.

Another option would be a single bottle and a NANO system
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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Well I'm thinking about a dual bottle system with a dual nano system setup, but that is going to get EXPENSIVE!!

I may just stay with one bottle and a nano kit for now then I might upgrade to a dual bottle system after the motor is built to be able to handle a BIG dual stage (150/150).
Old Sep 17, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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i just run 1 bottle.
Old Sep 18, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 97formulakid
Well I'm thinking about a dual bottle system with a dual nano system setup, but that is going to get EXPENSIVE!!

I may just stay with one bottle and a nano kit for now then I might upgrade to a dual bottle system after the motor is built to be able to handle a BIG dual stage (150/150).
The Competition NANO system will support up to a 500 shot....I am planning on using it on my car with a single 10# bottle and a 250-300 shot.

If I don't go with the Competition I will get their "Evil Twin"

Old Sep 18, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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Oh my lord! I would give up unmentionable things for that setup!
Old Sep 18, 2007 | 04:36 PM
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Evil twin? Please elaborate.
Old Sep 19, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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I don't have many details on this system yet...but I do know it is designed for the car spraying between 500-850hp worth of nitrous....it is overkill for the average user and is not a simple plug and play system.

I also love the looks and would be getting it for the WOW factor to help generate interest in the NANO systems when I am at the track.
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What does that thing weigh?

I run a single bottle on a 300-shot (used to be a dual stage 125/150). A bottle is only good for two passes, and then pressure loss becomes a problem, even though its still 1/2 full. But it seems to make more sense to swap bottles than to load the car up with a lot of unnecessary weight.
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a single bottle NANO system weighs around 15#...the Competition kit will support up to a 500 shot and will allow you to run the nitrous bottle empty with no pressure drop.



The Evil Twin would easily be over 30# but is designed for the guys running 500-850HP worth of nitrous
Old Sep 20, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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The 15 pounds isn't really that much. If you think about it, sacrificing 15 pounds to be able to run the bottle until completely empty would be worth it IMO.
Old Sep 21, 2007 | 10:05 PM
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Here's my answer to the push systems. really not much (50psi) drop running these dual 15lb'ers. one additional nice thing is this amount supports a whole day or weekend of runs, and this is at 250rwhp shot. I think it's cheaper also, and legal where push systems in some classes is still a no no.




What the unaware mustang owner see's when peaking in the back glass.

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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Injuneer
What does that thing weigh?

I run a single bottle on a 300-shot (used to be a dual stage 125/150). A bottle is only good for two passes, and then pressure loss becomes a problem, even though its still 1/2 full. But it seems to make more sense to swap bottles than to load the car up with a lot of unnecessary weight.
This is exactly why I ran the nano, one 15lb bottle is equal to THREE 10lb bottles.



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