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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 09:00 PM
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Why I will never run TnT at Martin again

This is how tonight went:

I get there at 6:45 and tech in.

Everyone lines up, they run 5 sets of cars, then let all 16 motorcycles and snowmobiles go. Then 5 more sets of cars and then let the 6 second cars go. The 6 second car breaks and oils the track. After 20 minutes they get it cleaned up. Then they let the bikes and snowmobiles go again. Then 5 more sets of cars and back to the fast cars. Then back to the bikes and sleds who got 10 runs, while I only got 2 before it rained at 8:40. And there were only 2 dozen cars there in line at MOST at any given time. That's two runs in two hours and the track was not even CLOSE to being packed.

Screw them, I'm going to Stanton from now on. I like martin's facilities, and I NEVER have a problem hooking unless the car in front me wet the box down, but they manage it horribly. I know they can't control the weather, but as far as I know the bikes and sleds pay the same entry fee we do. They shouldn't get preferential treatment. It cost me $15 to get in, not to mention the gas to drive there and back, the food I ate there, etc. And I got two runs.

As an aside, I did get my 12 second time slips out of the car. I ran those two runs launching off the converter, the next two I was going to run off idle to compare the difference. Never got the chance.

So, with a race weight of 3750lbs (they had the scale on tonight), and VERY hot and humid weather.. it still pulled back to back 12.9 et's

first was 12.93, second was 12.90. Mph was 106.12 and 106.10. Both 60' times were 1.89. no wheel spin, 22psi in the tires. I am guessing I could have pulled a 12.8 out of it with just playing with shift point and launching techniques, then I was going to try and drop another tenth off with some fuel and timing had the weather held out long enough. Right now I am still running stock fuel tables, and only adding 1 degree of advance over stock at 2800 rpm and above. So I am pretty sure there is room for improvement.

But, now I won't know just how far I could have taken it... this weekend it comes apart for open heart surgery.
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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this was in the Z28 or GN?
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SSnthe10s
this was in the Z28 or GN?
The vert. Mods in the sig. Pretty minor mods and a damn heavy car, so I can't complain too much about the times, but I know there was more in it.
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 09:14 PM
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fastest response EVAR!


but that cool. so your giving up on that GN?
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 09:26 PM
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fastest response EVAR!


but that cool. so your giving up on that GN?
not 100%, just haven't time to do anything with it, and I hate it just sitting in the driveway like it is. I may not sell, but I might. I'm up in the air...if something comes along as a trade off that the wife likes, then I will swap it and keep the vert for myself, allowing me to go a little crazier on it.
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 11:08 PM
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put a gear in it, it will pick up et, i promise.
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 1BAD86Z
put a gear in it, it will pick up et, i promise.
After the cam Scott We gotta see where it goes through the traps with the new cam.
Old Sep 16, 2004 | 01:02 AM
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Re: Why I will never run TnT at Martin again

Martin pulls this crap all of the time. I only got 2 runs in the last time I went while the bikes got 10-15. I want to go to Stanton when it cools down and I get the rear end fixed. I think with traction I should see some 12 second slips before I hook up the nitrous
Old Sep 16, 2004 | 09:12 AM
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Re: Why I will never run TnT at Martin again

Has anyone mentioned this to the Martin track officials or owners? It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out sleds and bikes are getting preferential treatment, but they might not be noticing it. Perhaps owners would be the way to go, as they would then educate their grid people.
Old Sep 16, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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Re: Why I will never run TnT at Martin again

Originally Posted by Becca_007
Has anyone mentioned this to the Martin track officials or owners? It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out sleds and bikes are getting preferential treatment, but they might not be noticing it. Perhaps owners would be the way to go, as they would then educate their grid people.

I was looking for a place for some t&t this weekend and was going to try US131 (Martin) tomorrow night...guess I won't. Just wanted to get out before M9...maybe Stanton next Wednesday. Take care. Dave
Old Sep 16, 2004 | 10:30 PM
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Well, the last time at Stanton, I only got 1 run in 2 hours because cars broke in both lanes and spilled parts and oil. I'm just glad that I got one run in. It sucks when you drive all the way to the track only to get screwed around. I'm glad I didn't have to deal with so many bikes and snowmobiles though.

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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 11:58 PM
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Re: Why I will never run TnT at Martin again

Track accidents will happen, but track mismanagment is unacceptable.
Old Sep 17, 2004 | 08:25 AM
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Re: Why I will never run TnT at Martin again

Originally Posted by dreamer1q
Track accidents will happen, but track mismanagment is unacceptable.
Yes, I agree. I was trying to point out that good track management doesn't guarantee that you will get a good number of runs in either. It's still unnacceptable what Martin is doing.

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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 01:48 PM
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Re: Why I will never run TnT at Martin again

Originally Posted by robvas
Dan:

Going to M9?
I'll have to check my schedule, but sounds like fun. I'm going to try to make it.

Dan
Old Sep 17, 2004 | 04:11 PM
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Re: Why I will never run TnT at Martin again

I say F snowmobiles-Quads-and those mini dragsters.. Test and Tune should be Street machines.. Ive seen assh0les at stanton come there and Race the 4 wheel drive trucks on 37"s and shake mud all over the Track..

There should be a special day just for *******'s who wanna see how fast there gator 4x6's are.. Then can bring there buddies with all that other junk **** and ruin a the track as a event



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