Need legal help to tackle down this FilledwithFurySS / brent Kirkwood clown
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I want to take him to small claims court over the money he owes me. I want to find out if its enough to throw his **** in jail. $500 is grand theft in NY and FL, but i dont know about here.
He owes me $350 which he admitted to (i saved), his best friend sides with me and with his colorful backround- there isn't much he can argue against.
He has also made threats to numerious members on AIM.
Heres the hummdinger-
Hes making up some BS that i owe him $600 for him storing my car (in the street in front of his trailor
). I dont want to end up getting skrewed and PAYING this SOB money.
Anyone here a lawyer? parents? sibling? significant other? best/imaginary friend?
can we file some lawsuit/charges against him as a whole? Is being this stupid against the law?
I know he stole an engine from a VERY (if not the most after the admins) respected board member ACROSS state lines. isn't that a federal offense?
What can we get going against this guy?
He owes me $350 which he admitted to (i saved), his best friend sides with me and with his colorful backround- there isn't much he can argue against.
He has also made threats to numerious members on AIM.
Heres the hummdinger-
Hes making up some BS that i owe him $600 for him storing my car (in the street in front of his trailor
). I dont want to end up getting skrewed and PAYING this SOB money.Anyone here a lawyer? parents? sibling? significant other? best/imaginary friend?
can we file some lawsuit/charges against him as a whole? Is being this stupid against the law?
I know he stole an engine from a VERY (if not the most after the admins) respected board member ACROSS state lines. isn't that a federal offense?
What can we get going against this guy?
You made your bed, now lie in it.
Sounds to me like you should chalk this up to a lesson learned and choose a little more carefully who you associate with.
It wasn't too long ago that you were sticking up for the deadbeat here.
Sounds to me like you should chalk this up to a lesson learned and choose a little more carefully who you associate with.
It wasn't too long ago that you were sticking up for the deadbeat here.
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Originally posted by 95 Z-28 LT1
You made your bed, now lie in it.
Sounds to me like you should chalk this up to a lesson learned and choose a little more carefully who you associate with.
It wasn't too long ago that you were sticking up for the deadbeat here.
You made your bed, now lie in it.
Sounds to me like you should chalk this up to a lesson learned and choose a little more carefully who you associate with.
It wasn't too long ago that you were sticking up for the deadbeat here.
Trey, I am by no means an attorney but I have studied some law and can tell you that this is purely a civil matter. If you loaned him money you willingly gave it to him. He didn't steal it or take it without permission did he?
I would go to the Sterling Heights courthouse and file a small claims suit against him. You have to prove that he owes you the money or has admitted to owing you the money. If thats the case you have a good case against him. Its something you don't need an attorney for. It will cost you anywhere between $25 and $50 to file the suit and have him served with a subpena. You should also include anything it cost you in damages, such as court costs and lost time at work.
I would watch what you say about him though, cause it seems to me like the little d!ckhead would do something to get back at you.
I would go to the Sterling Heights courthouse and file a small claims suit against him. You have to prove that he owes you the money or has admitted to owing you the money. If thats the case you have a good case against him. Its something you don't need an attorney for. It will cost you anywhere between $25 and $50 to file the suit and have him served with a subpena. You should also include anything it cost you in damages, such as court costs and lost time at work.
I would watch what you say about him though, cause it seems to me like the little d!ckhead would do something to get back at you.
Originally posted by IROC5.7TPI
Trey, I am by no means an attorney but I have studied some law and can tell you that this is purely a civil matter. If you loaned him money you willingly gave it to him. He didn't steal it or take it without permission did he?
I would go to the Sterling Heights courthouse and file a small claims suit against him. You have to prove that he owes you the money or has admitted to owing you the money. If thats the case you have a good case against him. Its something you don't need an attorney for. It will cost you anywhere between $25 and $50 to file the suit and have him served with a subpena. You should also include anything it cost you in damages, such as court costs and lost time at work.
I would watch what you say about him though, cause it seems to me like the little d!ckhead would do something to get back at you.
Trey, I am by no means an attorney but I have studied some law and can tell you that this is purely a civil matter. If you loaned him money you willingly gave it to him. He didn't steal it or take it without permission did he?
I would go to the Sterling Heights courthouse and file a small claims suit against him. You have to prove that he owes you the money or has admitted to owing you the money. If thats the case you have a good case against him. Its something you don't need an attorney for. It will cost you anywhere between $25 and $50 to file the suit and have him served with a subpena. You should also include anything it cost you in damages, such as court costs and lost time at work.
I would watch what you say about him though, cause it seems to me like the little d!ckhead would do something to get back at you.
This is just my 2 cents worth and its not legal advise but it may help you out. Just don't forget that if you both file against each other that almost always you will both feel screwed and the good guy doesn't always win! Good Luck!
Oh if you do go to court try and get a copy of the transcripts from the court reporter and post it so we can all see what happened.
Originally posted by treyZ28
I think you should talk to dave (phantomTA) before making a comment like that. there is more than what meets the eye here.
I think you should talk to dave (phantomTA) before making a comment like that. there is more than what meets the eye here.
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Originally posted by PhantomTA
Id rather stay out of it.. i dont wanna go to the hassel of getting a restraining order against him if i dont have to
Id rather stay out of it.. i dont wanna go to the hassel of getting a restraining order against him if i dont have to
I was hoping you would say something along the lines of "trey was trying to calm him down and help the situation" kinda thing
Originally posted by treyZ28
I think you should talk to dave (phantomTA) before making a comment like that. there is more than what meets the eye here.
I think you should talk to dave (phantomTA) before making a comment like that. there is more than what meets the eye here.
And for the third or fourth time, CALL DETECTIVE MILLER. I replied in two of your other posts about this with his contact information but evidently you don't read all of the replies to your threads. Detective Miller is probably the ONLY person you should be consulting for advice or who can even get started in getting your situation taken care of, considering he already has a case against Brent. Instead of spinning your legal wheels, go to someone who can actually get something done about it.
So, you asked for advice, I keep giving you the same advice and is what I believe to be the best advice for you. Let a qualified person in law enforcement take care of it. If you don't choose to follow that adice that is your decision, but I don't think making multiple posts about it here will do you much good if any.
Best of luck and all.
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Originally posted by JasonD
He has a point. If memory serves right, you were defending him. Whatever is more than meets the eye doesn't change that fact.
And for the third or fourth time, CALL DETECTIVE MILLER. I replied in two of your other posts about this with his contact information but evidently you don't read all of the replies to your threads. Detective Miller is probably the ONLY person you should be consulting for advice or who can even get started in getting your situation taken care of, considering he already has a case against Brent. Instead of spinning your legal wheels, go to someone who can actually get something done about it.
So, you asked for advice, I keep giving you the same advice and is what I believe to be the best advice for you. Let a qualified person in law enforcement take care of it. If you don't choose to follow that adice that is your decision, but I don't think making multiple posts about it here will do you much good if any.
Best of luck and all.
He has a point. If memory serves right, you were defending him. Whatever is more than meets the eye doesn't change that fact.
And for the third or fourth time, CALL DETECTIVE MILLER. I replied in two of your other posts about this with his contact information but evidently you don't read all of the replies to your threads. Detective Miller is probably the ONLY person you should be consulting for advice or who can even get started in getting your situation taken care of, considering he already has a case against Brent. Instead of spinning your legal wheels, go to someone who can actually get something done about it.
So, you asked for advice, I keep giving you the same advice and is what I believe to be the best advice for you. Let a qualified person in law enforcement take care of it. If you don't choose to follow that adice that is your decision, but I don't think making multiple posts about it here will do you much good if any.
Best of luck and all.
I did contact detective miller, after talking to - well you know who, he doesn't want this to be public about our 'game plan" if you want to call it that. There is nothing he can do for me, but he can help you know who.
When I asked Dave to lock that post for a week, Brent got things done. instead of flaming people back and forth, and then calling me to tell me about it and vent- he shipped stuff and got stuff done.
Most of my "defending' was to calm people down. this kid is like a 2nd grader, he has to have the last word and make fun of you back.
With the post locked, he stopped wasting his time here and did something productive.
Last edited by treyZ28; May 4, 2003 at 12:58 PM.
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