so if these issues arise from behives and a few other engine builders have said not to use behives then what would be a good spring for a cam with a .610 lift

 

[QUOTE=96capricemgr;6186816]JAKEJR, you TALK a good game not a lot of substance behind it though.QUOTE]

There was no need for you to write that.

What's wrong with you, anyway?

Why is it you write such similar responses so often? I know you've been told this before, because others have shared the same sentiment, but you've got problems!

I asked you before, IIRC, not to respond to any of my posts. I asked because of all the offensive comments you post, not just to me but to others as well. I hope you'll respect that request to refrain from commenting on anything I post: I'm asking again. Please.

You're not a nice person, so I blocked you on another Forum because of all the other such similiar, unnecessary and offensive responses of yours. I guess I forgot to do it here.

I'll take care of that though. Seems every Forum has at least one like you. Too Bad; So Sad.

Jake

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I don't think it good to badmouth a good product. Yes there were some failures but they were mostly do to missuse.

The 918s work great for those of us who use them inside their designed range, simple as that.

You started a thread to badmouth a product you seem to have no experiance with.

 

hey i really dont like to get involved in who ******* is bigger arguments , but i will this time because i asked a question and all i see is bs no usefull info at all ,im not taking either of ur sides , but damn if there is no useful info caprice and u have a problem with jake please take it to pm please , cuz it justs mucks up the thread , im very interested in reasons why these behives fail because it help me make an informed purchase .

i like to hear all side of a story before i make a choice can u guys help or not if not caprice GTFOutta here

 

If you decide to go with another option, my personal preference would be doubles with a damper.

You can also give Lloyd Elliott a call for a recommendation. He's up on springs and one of the most respected head porters around. He recently posted his TOP OF THE LINE recommendation, but I can't recall if it was on this Forum or LS1LT1.COM

I didn't think this would be necessary, but since you seem interested in making the best choice: Earlier this year I received a PM for a member of another Forum. He had just had a telephone conversation with one of the most recognizable names at AirFlow Research. He was told NOT to use Beehives on his AFR heads. I won't divulge the names because it was a PRIVATE MESSAGE and I didn't ask for or receive permission to do so.

I'm glad to see you're doing your homework no matter which route you choose. Others should follow your lead.

Jake

West Point ROCKS! Nation's TOP COLLEGE per Forbes Magazine!! Graduation Day Parade 20 May 2010!!!

 

Ok well the way i've read it was that there were a couple batches of the springs after Comp had switched suppliers and that the material used was weak, since then Comp has made the fixes tha were needed to make these springs good again but if you are wanting to run a cam with .610 like i am i would reccomend the Patriot Gold extram gold springs that can handle .650 with out thinking twice.

But like stated before some batches of the 918 were defective and in other cases the springs were pushed pretty close to there limit, maybe it's just me but if i'm going to run a big cam like .600+ lift i would make sure i have at least .050 about my lift rate to be safe.

 

Don't fret, I just blocked him, so I shouldn't be able to see any more of his posts. Fingers crossed on that.

This issue reminds me of when Shirley Rodman (Dennis' mother) asked me to do the final walk-through of her new home, to find all the discrepancies I could. I lived across the street so I did, and I prepared a multiple page listing of what I found. Then I told her I found the issues, but it was up to her to fight the battle with Centex to have them corrected.

Same thing here, I can bring forth information as I come across it but it's up to the prospective buyer or user to a'"fight the battle" (homework) and find out for themselves what's what.

There use to be a commerical aired on TV "An informed consumer is our Best Customer", funny how I remember such stuff, LOL.

I'm just a messenger, trying to help - Please, don't kill the messenger, Cancer's already doing that.

Jake

West Point ROCKS! Nation's TOP COLLEGE per Forbes Magazine!! Graduation Day Parade 20 May 2010!!!

 

basiclly this is what i got that im putting on in december on my motor

fully ported and polished stock lt1 heads that flow 309 on the intake with stock size valves ,
1.6 scorpion NSA rr's
intake ported to match heads
58mm tb
cam yet to deside or waiting to hear from my porter . desicions desicions
i should be somewhere in the .590 lift range but i dont want to much spring pressure but want enough to rev to 6500 rpm max without valve float
ls7 lifters
trick flow guide plates,
going to use hardended push rods but have to get push rod length checker for proper valve train geometry ,"i do not want any failures "
double roller timing chain
LT's with 3 in collector
and im sure there is other stuff ,
50 shot of n2o

help me on my springs guys i dont plan on using a cc cam with the xfi lobes as they are hell on valve train and im pretty much going to be using this as a DD and saterday night special

 

ya know i had another guy tell me this week not to use beehive springs ,, but i see them on alot of setups here and another lt1 site . i really notice alot of valve train problems here and ls1lt1 and it usally comes down to improper push rod length or wrong v-springs

but way to many failures for as much info on these sites and "profesonals" that give advice here ,

one thingi have always done with all the motors i have built and repaired for people doing this for 14 yrs now , is that i like to see what other people run and see the sucess rate on a particular part before i like to use it , another words i like to learn from other peoples mistakes .

i noticed on this site and ls1 lt1 that there is alot of missinformation getting mixed in with very good info like what i usally read from jakejr and injuneer and shoebox and a few others . then u got some asshat that comes in and mucks it all up and i wanna just scream dude GTFO with ur bad advice.

some people on this site and others like to think what they say is gospel and its far from it . and the people seeking the advice get missled instead of reading everything and then decpher all the bs out of it so they dont screw them selves over

if anyone wants to email me and help me out with links to info or sites with parts with good prices please feel free to email me at forwardirection@yahoo.com

 

Here's how I'd attack the spring issue. You have a head porter, so it follows that you have confidence in him. If he's also the one to recommend the springs you should use, I know it'll be based on the camshaft choice and the engine's intended use.

I'm sure you already know that certain cams call for certain spec springs. He'll know that and will make a spring recommendation that'll meet the cam's requirements.

If his spring recommendation causes you to have questions, do like the TV medical commercial/informational suggests and "Ask Questions". Perhaps your concerns can be quieted or as an alternative, another spring, which meets the same spec, and on which you both can agree, can be used.

Hope this helps.

Jake

West Point ROCKS! Nation's TOP COLLEGE per Forbes Magazine!! Graduation Day Parade 20 May 2010!!!

 

damn that is good advice , i really didnt even think about it like that , the holidays are so stressful , i gotta call him and see what he says ,

 

The reason you're getting the ahole treatment from him on multiple forums, is because you are a problem on multiple forums.

 

Good point Dwayne. Here is a post from another site. notice the issue trying to be fixed? so it relates back to this issue

No Bret, you need the mysticism and internet BS to keep you going since you have next to no real world experience outside of EAPro.

Your only products are Joe's old ported 243s and your "cam knowledge."

I have another of your LTx deals here right now with extreme valve float issues. MSR's the name and god knows what lobes you used. I hope 1255s can control them this next time around since the 26120s he had sure couldn't!

Some of your nutswingers are starting to catch on about this to no matter how many of your "subtle comments" you leave around.

You need stuff like that when you don't have any idea of what you are talking about


since i cant post a link to it in here just pm me and you can read all 15 or so pages of the internet cam guru's ideas.