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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 12:36 AM
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X-pipe vs H-pipe..

I'm about to have different mufflers put in my exhuast because its too raspy (echoes bad under part throttle). I'm going from the bullets to the ultra-flo welded (17218) but im curious if a balancer pipe might help to get rid of the rasp as well, and if it would which is better for doing that or better sound overall? simply i want to know which is the better sounding.. duals with no balancer, or duals with an h or x pipe and which one. also im wandering about the performance difference of the three.
Old Nov 7, 2005 | 05:53 AM
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Re: X-pipe vs H-pipe..

What's your current setup.

I run duals with an x-pipe and 12" bullets and LOVE it.
Old Nov 7, 2005 | 07:36 AM
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Re: X-pipe vs H-pipe..

the Xpipe should tone it down a bit....

the Hpipe should so a similar thing...either will work better than no balancer
Old Nov 7, 2005 | 02:52 PM
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Re: X-pipe vs H-pipe..

X = better performance across the powerband for the most part

H = better sounding, maybe a few hp loss towards the top end

I would go for an H since both are probably better than the stock Y pipe configuration
Old Nov 7, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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Re: X-pipe vs H-pipe..

I have no connecting pipe.
Old Nov 7, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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Re: X-pipe vs H-pipe..

ok guys thanks for the info, i think im gona go with an H, but ill probly have to use an X because of how close together the pipes are.

and to answer the question about my exhuast, its true duals run off the stock manifolds. it runs all the way to where the y-pipe would be and instead of joining keeps running down to the back. its all 2.5in. over the axle in the stock location, with 2 12in. bullets. its about to be changed to an x-pipe setup with ultra-flo welded 14" mufflers. can anyone tell me the difference in sound between these two??? im almost worried i wont like it, i wanna hear it with the X-pipe and bullets and then put the others on if i dont like it, but i cant be there while they do it and cant leave the car 2 days.

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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 10:02 PM
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Re: X-pipe vs H-pipe..

How does it sound with no connecting pipe? Can you describe it and do you have any clips?
Old Nov 7, 2005 | 10:19 PM
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I have been supposed to get some clips for a while, let me look.
Old Nov 7, 2005 | 10:43 PM
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Re: X-pipe vs H-pipe..

i dont have any clips.. but under part throttle.. does a harley ring any bells? its just a loud series of echoes that you can hear bouncing off everyhting around you (probly 1/2 throttle) i HATE it, i love the rumble it makes sometimes but it only does it at VERY light throttle (less than 1/4)
Old Nov 8, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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Re: X-pipe vs H-pipe..

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i dont have any clips.. but under part throttle.. does a harley ring any bells? its just a loud series of echoes that you can hear bouncing off everyhting around you (probly 1/2 throttle) i HATE it, i love the rumble it makes sometimes but it only does it at VERY light throttle (less than 1/4)
You have headers?
I never had a setup I liked the sound of until I got longtubes.

Awesome at idle, almost silent at cruising speeds, not bullet loud, but pretty loud up top and it keeps a deep throaty sound all the way through the band. It is a deep sound.

As far as harleys go everyone I have pulled up next to my car sounded better. More lope.

With the 40s, my cam, and a 600rpm idle, she sounds almost perfect.
Old Nov 8, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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Re: X-pipe vs H-pipe..

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You have headers?
I never had a setup I liked the sound of until I got longtubes.

Awesome at idle, almost silent at cruising speeds, not bullet loud, but pretty loud up top and it keeps a deep throaty sound all the way through the band. It is a deep sound.

As far as harleys go everyone I have pulled up next to my car sounded better. More lope.

With the 40s, my cam, and a 600rpm idle, she sounds almost perfect.
nope stock manifolds, my car doesnt sound deep at all. but yeah the silent at cruising is GREAT lol. mine is only deep at idle.. anything after that it gets roud laspy and has no real tone.. just a bunch of echoes.. =/ and im not talkin about the lope or anything just the loud echoing sound they make under accel. i actually got out of a ticket once cause the car was silent cruising.. funny story bout that... got on it somewhere i shouldnt have.. just for a second! it was only heard not seen.. cop came flyin up behind me went around me, and then slowed down and cut in front of me... guess he changed his mind on who it was after he saw the other cars lol!
Old Nov 8, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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Re: X-pipe vs H-pipe..

Originally Posted by jsetzer
You have headers?
I never had a setup I liked the sound of until I got longtubes.

Awesome at idle, almost silent at cruising speeds, not bullet loud, but pretty loud up top and it keeps a deep throaty sound all the way through the band. It is a deep sound.

As far as harleys go everyone I have pulled up next to my car sounded better. More lope.

With the 40s, my cam, and a 600rpm idle, she sounds almost perfect.
do you have a soundclips of that by chance??

also i have another question to add to this thread. Ive seen X-pipes that intersect and X-pipes that just seem to merge together and back apart. Whats the difference between the two, if any?
Old Nov 8, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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Re: X-pipe vs H-pipe..

I am trying to get a video from last time at the track, if not maybe I can borrow a camera this weekend.
Old Nov 8, 2005 | 08:24 PM
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Re: X-pipe vs H-pipe..

h-pipe. cheaper than a x-pipe.
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