Getting longtube headers also. Is this a good cam choice for stock headed car? Not looking at ported heads in the future, maybe in 30 years is a different story, but from what I have done, will this put out good numbers and sound good? THanks

Here's the specs on it. ZZ-409 Hyd Roller:Adv. duration 287/287, duration @.050 226/226, Lift .520/.520. 112 LSA

What kind of HP can I expect from it?

 

Hotcam like power with twice the price. Single pattern cams should not go near stock heads, as the LT1 really suffers from a poor exhaust port. It should tell you something is off when its the only cam around without atleast +6 duration on the exhaust.

Will you ever do nitrous or a blower? More info is needed to make any suggestions.

 

No. I am pretty sure cam is the last I will do to the car. Black Z28 recommended this to me and i wasnt sure. So pretty much all the boltons plus a cam. ALso, with any cam, what size stall converter should I get since i am an A4 daily driver?

Also, i have heard of a few ppl dynoed 335 hp untuned with this cam. I want alot of lope/chop, and good hp. shooting for 340-350rwhp with a dynotune. Car needs to sound rough tho, nice big chop, but still daily driveable. Im 17 too, so can put up with alot.

 

LT4 hotcam kit for the same price. I don't even think the zz409 cam comes with springs. LT4 hotcam has a nice sound. Definately not stock sounding.

 

Oh, you should be able to put those same numbers with the hot cam

 

cc306 is a lot cheaper and you'll love the "chop".

 

Where can I get the cc306 for a good price? Also, what springs should I use with this? Is the Combination 612 spring kit good for this? How high should the cc306 spun for HP? Can I get away with stock rockers, and switch to roller rockers later? Also, use Comp R Lifters? I have heard a hotcam in person, and its not enough, and lots of people who have it complain not enough chop for that. What size stall converter should I use with the cc306, remember, daily driver, except for in the winters.

 

It's a big cam, stock heads it will pull until ~6300-6400 rpms? (correct me if im wrong) Comp Rs definatly, stock rockers okay.... not sure on springs... stock rockers would keep it safely under .600 though, so you could get the crane 10308 kit (CRN-10308-1 summitracing.com) On the stall.. somewhere between 2800-3200... Going with a big cam means watch closely the drivetrain, as the rear and tranny (especially with a TC) may bite the dust, as well as the engine with a suspect install. I plan on rebuilding the engine when I do a cam, just to make sure everything wears in evenly and not have to worry about pulling it back out, 500 miles after the cam.

 

CC306 spins high...most spin to above 6000 i believe, i think it makes peak hp around 6k. That's pretty high...and lots of people will tell you that its probably not the right cam for stock heads. But whatever floats your boat. Somebody on here trapped 115 on stock head with the CC306 and a M6 (i think that's all he had done anyway). lifters and hardened pushrods are a must...contact combination motorsports (cmotorsports.com) and find out about their cam packages they will set you up for whatever you are looking for.

 

I will. Combination has the cc306 tho?is 6000RPMS high for a stock headed car? I am doing hardened pushrods and everything, just dont want to dish out more $$ on RR just yet. What size stall then, 2800?

I just checked combinations website and I dont see the cc306 Listed on it. SO what spring and where from should Be used with the 306? Taking into consideration I might go to RR in the future.

 

I had the hotcam, its was an ok cam. The zz409 will make more power than the hotcam will, thats for sure. My friend just put the zz409 in his car, and he really likes it. Many dont like TPiS's stuff because their prices are more than a comp cam or something, but look at the sizes of the company's they have to charge more, plus the quality of their cam is really nice.. I am running TPiS;s zzx cam (240/240 .595 112)

 

so what would have more lowend and better for a daily driver, the ZZ409, or CC306?

 

Not the cc 306 & that's for sure.

 

I have T56 and if I wanted to I could drive it as a daily driver. With A4 I would guess 3000 stall. As far as spring kits as long as it can handle .600 lift your good. CC306 is .510 .540 on 1.5 rr, so with 1.6rr down the road your still under .600. The cam with ported heads makes power up to 6800rpm so plan on spinning it to at least 6k for best performance. You really should port heads with this cam but I have seen people not do it and they still are near 345rwhp. If you do all bolt ons, 1.6rr, p&p heads, and good tune it puts down nearly 380rwhp. But it makes power up high and this may all cost more than your looking to spend. IMO the ZZ409 is extremely overpriced, even if you don't get the CC306 look into a custom grind cam, it's probably still cheaper than ZZ409. JMHO

 

As was mentioned, single pattern for a stock headed LT1 is a big mistake. Also, the cam is not the best for stock heads. I like the Hot cam for a stock head car, and the package is a good deal.

Rich