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Old May 23, 2003 | 06:20 PM
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Torque on thermostat bolts?

Anybody know what the correct torque is supposed to be on the bolts for the thermostat cover? My Haynes manual says 21 ft. lbs. , but that can't be it. As I was tightening with my torque wrench set to 21 ft. lbs. it just seemed like it was getting WAY too tight for those aluminum bolts, and then SNAP!

Fortunately it left me just enough stub to back it out with a pair of plyers. So all I need is a new bolt, and the CORRECT torque.

Thanks for any help you can give.
Old May 23, 2003 | 06:47 PM
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Yeah, the torque value for that is in error. I don't know what it really is, but seems like I saw it somewhere and it was under 10 lb ft. I have had it off enough to where I just snug them down.
Old May 23, 2003 | 06:58 PM
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Wow, this is kind of crazy, the service manual and chilton's say 21 ft lbs also. Sorry I couldn't help
Old May 23, 2003 | 07:59 PM
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im wondering if it is supposed to maybe in/lbs? or maybe reverse the numbers to 12ft/lbs. just a thought
Old May 23, 2003 | 10:06 PM
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Snug is a good torque rating concerning the stat.

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Old May 23, 2003 | 10:28 PM
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your suppose to torque those things
Old May 23, 2003 | 10:37 PM
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21 ft/lbs according tho the Haynes book.
Old May 23, 2003 | 11:01 PM
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Just use a 1/4 ratchet for God's sake!

Just get it snug, you don't need to torque that thing down, just have it snug.
Old May 23, 2003 | 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by Harpoon Flyby
21 ft/lbs according tho the Haynes book.
I think that was covered in the original post.

We know that to be in error in that manual and many others.

I knew I had seen it somewhere and found this in some Impala SS faq:


Q: The torque specs in the manual seem high for the thermostat housing. Are they correct?
A: NO!! Both the factory service manuals as well as the Hypertech documentation are INCORRECT with regards to the thermostat housing bolt torque. If you follow the incorrect specs (which are 3 times more torque than what is correct), you will either strip the threads out of the soft aluminum waterpump, or you will break the heads off of the tiny 5mm bolts! The manual states that they are supposed to take 21 ft-lbs of torque, which is far to high for the size and material of the bolts. The correct specification for torque on the thermostat housing bolts (as found in the '96 Y-car (Corvette) service manual) is 10 n/m or 89 in-lbs, which would be 7.42 ft-lbs.
89 in lbs = snug
Old May 23, 2003 | 11:17 PM
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Shoebox,
Your humor isn't lost on me.
Old May 24, 2003 | 01:02 AM
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Front cover[of the water pump] at 33 ft lb seems high also... food for thought..
Old May 24, 2003 | 01:13 AM
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Thanks guys. According to the Haynes manual it is "based on a complete teardown and rebuild." I bet it fell apart when they were done...
Old May 24, 2003 | 09:57 PM
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I tighten everything without torque wrench except for cylinder heads. A little common sense is perfectly adequate for all but those critical components, I think.
Old Feb 11, 2004 | 04:44 PM
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nevermind...woops...
Old Feb 11, 2004 | 04:46 PM
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can you order those bolts online anywhere? I'm having no luck from dealership..



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