Subframe Connectors - Bolt-on or Welded?
#1
Subframe Connectors - Bolt-on or Welded?
Put simply, which type of subframe connector is better, the bolt-in type or welded ones? What's a good brand to go with? Looking to get some in the near future, as I've heard they will help with T-top rattles and body shakes.
#7
Some one told me to get the bolt on ones and then have them welded in. He said that that it was alot easier to install. I don't have them, just telling you what he said. BTW he has a camar and works at a local speed shop.
#9
Welded. I've seen a magazine article that showed the "tears" in the frame that bolt-in SFC's caused. You are trying to connect the front and rear of the car together, rigidly. Its going to be very hard to get a truly rigid connection relying on the friction developed between the bolts, washers and frame metal. Eventually, somthing is going to come apart. Even it is doesn't tear anything, you will lose the effectiveness of the connectors as friction wears down the mating surfaces.
#10
Originally posted by Injuneer
Welded. I've seen a magazine article that showed the "tears" in the frame that bolt-in SFC's caused. You are trying to connect the front and rear of the car together, rigidly. Its going to be very hard to get a truly rigid connection relying on the friction developed between the bolts, washers and frame metal. Eventually, somthing is going to come apart. Even it is doesn't tear anything, you will lose the effectiveness of the connectors as friction wears down the mating surfaces.
Welded. I've seen a magazine article that showed the "tears" in the frame that bolt-in SFC's caused. You are trying to connect the front and rear of the car together, rigidly. Its going to be very hard to get a truly rigid connection relying on the friction developed between the bolts, washers and frame metal. Eventually, somthing is going to come apart. Even it is doesn't tear anything, you will lose the effectiveness of the connectors as friction wears down the mating surfaces.
#11
I installed Competition Engineering boxed bolt on SFC's and noticed very little difference in stiffness after bolting them on. They are very similar to BMR and others. Where they bolt up in the rear to the control arm mount is very solid but the front mounting point was lousy, you had to drill your own holes through the frame/floor for the bolts, that was the weak point. I later had the front welded to the subframe, huge difference, much stiffer afterwards.
#12
Originally posted by Hyperspeed97z28
I've got bolt-in's...
Couldnt be happier.... AND I still got my fuel lines
I've got bolt-in's...
Couldnt be happier.... AND I still got my fuel lines
ok call me blonde what does still having your fuel lines have to do with subframe connecters
#13
Originally posted by cndctrdj
ok call me blonde what does still having your fuel lines have to do with subframe connecters
ok call me blonde what does still having your fuel lines have to do with subframe connecters
#14
Some guys end up burning the fuel lines when they weld up the SFC's. The Fuel line runs very close to the front drivers side weld area. We used some aluminum flashing to shield the lines while we welded mine.
Edit: Gregg, your too fast on the draw.
Dan
Edit: Gregg, your too fast on the draw.
Dan