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Old 06-15-2005, 09:47 PM
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Spark plugs are black

My car hasn't ran right since I installed a cam. I was told that my opti was probably the reason why. Well I replaced the opti and it made it a little better but it still misses very bad. The car idles fine but it doesn't respond to the throttle very well. I pulled the plugs tonight and they are black. Would a bad opti foul up the plugs? Would bad plugs cause a car to run really bad under throttle but still idle ok? I also smell a lot of gas in the exhaust. Is this another indication of bad plugs? I'm obviously going to replace the plugs, I have all but one of them out. I'm just looking for confirmation that bad plugs can cause the symptons I'm experiencing.
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Old 06-15-2005, 10:00 PM
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well, your MAF sensor could be bad. when those go bad, you usually always run really rich. you are definately running rich. if the opti was bad, i wouldn't think you'd be running rich like that. a bad maf can cause miss, but usually not that bad. i'd try a new or good used MAF, and check your tps voltage with a DMM (digi multi meter). a haynes manual should provide you with the correct tps settings. i doubt it's your opti this time. when i had a bad MAF, it wasted tons of gas though the exhaust. it was pretty nasty.
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Old 06-16-2005, 05:11 AM
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Smell the dipstick for gas in the oil.
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Old 06-16-2005, 10:53 AM
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I also forgot to mention that my SES light is not coming on. I would think that if it was running as bad as it is that I would at least have a light.
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Old 06-16-2005, 11:27 AM
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You ought to try to get it on a datalogger so you can seee whats going on.. it may be the O2's also.
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Old 06-16-2005, 11:44 AM
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Did you get the computer reprogrammed after the cam install? Not sure what kinda cam, but I know they typically tell people to reprogram them. That might have something to do with it running rich, or like everyone said the MAF sensor could do it.
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Old 06-16-2005, 01:01 PM
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Since you did a cam, you are gonna be runnin rich no matter what, no way around it. Even with a tune, you are still gonna smell gas a lot more now than before.

I would say that once you replace the plugs you should be good to go.
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Old 06-16-2005, 02:32 PM
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I did have my computer reprogrammed by Bryan at PCMforless after the cam install. Thanks for all the tips. I plan on replacing my plugs when I get home from work tonight. If that doesn't work I guess I need to get some scanning software so I can see exactly what's going on. Not that I'll understand it all but that's why I'm a member here so I can get the opinions of people that do.
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Old 06-16-2005, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by slopokrodrigez
Smell the dipstick for gas in the oil.
It had the smell of gas. I also replaced the plugs and it didn't help. Now I need to find a good/prefferably free data logging software.
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Old 06-17-2005, 06:55 PM
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See if you have a dead cylinder.
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