sold my iroc now i have 96 t/a ws6 woes! HELP
10-25-2012, 04:10 PM
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Re: sold my iroc now i have 96 t/a ws6 woes! HELP
Any help with my cam question would be great. And i will try fuel filter first! Thanks everyone so much for staying on this thread helping
10-25-2012, 04:12 PM
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Re: sold my iroc now i have 96 t/a ws6 woes! HELP
Okay everyone here goes. The lower end was from a caprice classic police car. The alum heads from the orginal motor were put on the donor motor. Now one thing that drew my attention is the cam........are they all the same. As far as lt1s??? If not than that could be an issue im having right? Computer getting confused maybe? And yes i shouldve checked fuel pressure right off the bat. I assumed it was fine seeing the car runs good just has no power.
Anyway, did you change the knock sensor in the block? I belive the ones in the B-body are different and may be cause some issues around ignition timing...
10-25-2012, 04:21 PM
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I.do.not know that this is.all coming from prev owner who did it. It dose not show any knock sensor issues on the scanner. We even reved it hard a few times to see if it was showing anything. Im lost but thankfull its not my cam causing all this. Just spoke to the previous owner and he said he did a fuel filter right after changing the motor. Sounding like a dying fuel pump..... any more advice???? And as far as o2readings ill hook the scanner back up and post back readings.
10-26-2012, 05:30 AM
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I think Mrmint put it best.......
Went back over all your posts. You neglected to do any of the easy tests suggested and went right for the complicated stuff. Fuel pressure test was listed first and done last and appears to be your issue, as well as possibly bad O2 sensors, which both will make that car run bad. .
Oh and while I'm on the subject. If you got it back from a shop and it's still no good, what did you take it to them for in the first place? Shouldn't it be right?
10-26-2012, 07:37 AM
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i did a fuel filter just to be on safe side as sugested above and its still the same, whole pump was ordered and will be here today at 10am. i have the day off from work so ill be doing the trap door mod once the pump is here.
And the o2 readings were lean bank 1 and 2......this could be because of lack of fuel im thinking? regaurdless the pump will be in and we will go from there.
As far as the shop its a good friend of mine who owns it and works on my car. He is an honest person and only trying to help. everything he's done he has shown me why it needs to be changed weither or not it was the issue im having was sure going to be an issue in the short road. I have no regrets on taking the car to him. We both got confused on the spark advance readings the scanner was giving us thats why we went ahead and made sure cam timing was correct seeing the prev owner of the car was "un sure if he did it right". Moral of the story is i most deff should have checked fuel pressure from the start thats a huge fail on my half. But we learn from our mistakes every day right guys! And thanks again for all the help!
And the o2 readings were lean bank 1 and 2......this could be because of lack of fuel im thinking? regaurdless the pump will be in and we will go from there.
As far as the shop its a good friend of mine who owns it and works on my car. He is an honest person and only trying to help. everything he's done he has shown me why it needs to be changed weither or not it was the issue im having was sure going to be an issue in the short road. I have no regrets on taking the car to him. We both got confused on the spark advance readings the scanner was giving us thats why we went ahead and made sure cam timing was correct seeing the prev owner of the car was "un sure if he did it right". Moral of the story is i most deff should have checked fuel pressure from the start thats a huge fail on my half. But we learn from our mistakes every day right guys! And thanks again for all the help!
10-26-2012, 02:50 PM
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Re: sold my iroc now i have 96 t/a ws6 woes! HELP
i am getting a p1642 code thats it something about fan relays which are jumped out to have fans on 24/7..... thats all im getting out of it any ideas?
10-26-2012, 04:33 PM
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Re: sold my iroc now i have 96 t/a ws6 woes! HELP
Well what was causing the low fuel pressure??? Was it actually that low? Could it have been the FPR we talked about a while ago? If it is the cause of the problem and it was not changed, see how it could still be running poorly?
Perhaps I didn't make this previous post clear. If the diaphragm is ruptured, it will lower the fuel pressure.
Did you or anyone else ever check the FPR?
I say MAY cause there are 2 other things that can create a long crank situation also. If the FPR has a hole in the diaphragm, it can do the long crank also but it will also cause the engine to run poorly. Do to dumping fuel into the intake via the vacuum line. You can test this by using the vac line to draw a vacuum on the FPR. If it does not hold a vacuum, the diaphragm is ruptured.
Did you or anyone else ever check the FPR?
10-26-2012, 04:43 PM
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Re: sold my iroc now i have 96 t/a ws6 woes! HELP
the only thing i check on the fpr was pulling the vac line and seeing if fuel was in it and which it was not i hooked it back up. If it was ruptured wouldnt it go into intake from the vac port????
10-26-2012, 05:17 PM
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well then theres my mess up again. story of my life. im going to check fuel pressure again and if its low still then i am the idiot of the day.
10-26-2012, 06:00 PM
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Re: sold my iroc now i have 96 t/a ws6 woes! HELP
Sometimes things are not as simple as they seem. after you find the problem I'm sure were all
going to learn something here . " I know I will " stay positive and good luck
going to learn something here . " I know I will " stay positive and good luck
10-26-2012, 06:25 PM
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Re: sold my iroc now i have 96 t/a ws6 woes! HELP
yeah no kidding, at least everything i replaced was going to need replacing shortly. where in nc are you?
Im going to hook back up to scanner tomm and see how coolant temp sensor is reading as well, just a double check
Im going to hook back up to scanner tomm and see how coolant temp sensor is reading as well, just a double check
10-27-2012, 09:37 AM
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Re: sold my iroc now i have 96 t/a ws6 woes! HELP
When you check he 02's make sure they are good and warmed up. You want the reading to be all over the place and between 0xx and 9xx. Changing very rapidly like this 128 845 396 274 762 582 145 and so on. You really should fix the fuel problem first and then test them as stated.
10-27-2012, 11:12 AM
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Re: sold my iroc now i have 96 t/a ws6 woes! HELP
can anyone tell me how on earth to remove the fpr... i took the one bolt out that i can visually see but cant seem to get it to come off.... any help?