I searched for slp headers in forum and read alot about bad plug access. Is the same true if I have access to a lift and get under the car?

 

Seem pretty fine to me, I just put these in my car over the weekend, ALOT BETTER THEN STOCK MANIFOLDS!!

 

If you're looking for something as easy as hemi heads, obviously, for us none exists. There are some headers that are better, I have heard some long tubes and MAC's are easier then the SLP's. But they are better then stock, mainly because you can physically see the plugs. 1 & 3 are really really easy, 5 & 7 are pretty easy, 6 & 8 are alright with the y-pipe dropped and the starter out, and 2 & 4 arent too bad if you give it some patience. I was able to change all 8 plugs without removing the alternator or steering shaft, so they're not too bad. Might it be easier to have those removed or espicially the AIR pump and pipes? Yes, but I still have those... for now...

 

SLP headers for 96-97 cars are designed very differently than SLP headers for 94-95 cars. I have the 94-95 design and they are very difficult. Plug access is the only beef I have with my SLP headers and I have had them on for about 5 years.

 

I have the 94-95 model on both my camaro's. I am a pretty big guy and I don't think they are bad at all. Once you figure out the tricks they are easy to work with. I had RKsport once I hated them. I use a spark plug socket and a box wrench for most.

 

I haven't had to do this yet, but I can see almost all of them, and plus I can even reach every header bolt with no problem, I don't see how the plugs could be that bad

 

Great! then I can't wait for you to change the plugs. Have fun.

 

bah, I have changed the plugs with the stock manifolds, and I know this isn't worse than that, so I'm not worried about it at all.

 

Well, I haven't changed plugs with stock manifolds so I can't comment on that, but I've changed plugs twice with the SLPs. All I can say is that I've tried a variety of different tools and I find that it is the worst plug changing experience I have ever encountered. I'm an old fart so I have wrenched on a number plugs in my time.

 

I have changed the plugs with factory manifolds. Th only way you could do it is to take a bunch of things apart. I can change my plugs now in under an hour. If I remove the starter it takes less than that. I used to own an 81 camaro with long tubes so I can understand were you are coming from. Five minute plug change. Get one of those cut-off plug sockets. The only hard plugs are #6 and #5. With the socket they are not bad anymore.

 

The 94-95 style aren't bad except for #5. That one is f-in impossible unless you have a plug socket that lets the tail of the plug go all the way through, and then you turn it with a box wrench. Putting it back in is still a PITA though.

A lift wouldn't help you because #5 has to be done from the top; the primaries kind of tuck under it.

 

I was in the same boat (previous car was a DOHC Turbo AWD eagle talon, and then a 4.3L Bravada, and a 2.2L I4 S-10) so these looked impossible. I used the but socket method, but I just bought a spare 5/8 socket for like $1.99, ripped out the rubber thing, cut it down in thickness a bit (just to protect the back of the socket) and cut like 1.5" of the end. Presto. SLP charges HOW much for that? That made life SOO much easier, espicially with a ratcheting box wrench.

Compared to a LOT of other cars, these suck. If we had an extra inch in space on each strut tower, it'd be a lot easier...