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S.P.E.C Stage 5 =O DAYUM!!!

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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 03:09 AM
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Originally posted by Leedogg 96TA
I run a spec stage 2 kevlar in mine and I love it...but a friend of mine has the stage 4 in his Mustang daily driver(6.3's in the 1/8th) and it hardly feels any different from my stage 2....I think that once you get to the "DAMN this **** grabs" stage the main difference is the power handling.

The day I spend a grand for a ST, is the day I croak.
word! how much power is he pushing in that stang? im debating on the stage4 or stage 5! im a lil over 800hp AT THE TRACK! on the street all motor im pushing 460hp
Old Jul 21, 2003 | 03:31 AM
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I have a street twin with the Al flywheel and have no qualms with it - I would do it over again in a heartbeat. The spec kevlar/kevlar is a very good/nice street/track clutch - I have a friend with one and no problems with that in the car (Drivability wise, etc.) It did wear out abnormally fast, but this may have been to to the aformentioned hub issue, and SPEC warrantied it with a full replacement no charge - I will say their customer service is excellent.

On the other hand I have driven a ceramic spec clutch setup and did not like it at all - it definitely was drivable, etc. but the McLeod Twin disc is much smoother and easier to drive around - plus with the new master it finally gives you some real feel to the clutch pedal (not to mention you can adjust your engagement point).


If you can swing the $$$ I would go for the twin disc. I would pick up one of the new revisions, as the older ones didn't come with the new master and the hub was much thinner, leading to input shaft problems.


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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 01:16 AM
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injectedss- he runs around 400 motor...with up to a 350 shot at the track. his car is relatively light though(3100-3200), with a 4.11 rear end. He also went through the bad desin of the disks...but since they sent him the new one(free ofcourse), It has held up nicely. Think he said they rate it @ 650 ft lbs or so, but he is well over that on the jug. My stage 2 is good for 450ft lbs and I make 500 on the jug with no problems yet.
Old Jul 28, 2003 | 06:11 PM
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well i ordered the SPEC STAGE 5 and it came in today and all i gotta say is.............DAYUM this **** looks like it means business solid disc, pp looks great, throwout bearing is some kinda different design! LOOKS REALLY GOOD... now lets see if she can put up with some BIG HP

STAGE 5 CLUTCH
Old Jul 28, 2003 | 07:46 PM
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I had the Stage 3 carbon and it was pretty rough. I couldn't imagine a Stage 4 much less an unsprung Stage 5. The key term here is "unsprung". This means no springs or in our tems no driveability. This will deffinatlly be a race only clutch, not intended for street driving. The thing you said about reving a little higher to try and slip a little on take off, that is what I do with my 3. You won't stand a chance with an unsprung S5. I would try calling SPEC's tech line and asking them what they think you need. I promise they won't say "Stage 5". Oh, and a Street twin is nothing more than an over priced, over weight, alternative to a real clutch. No way I'd buy something that weighs 30 lbs. more than what I had.
Old Jul 28, 2003 | 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by Beast96Z
I had the Stage 3 carbon and it was pretty rough. I couldn't imagine a Stage 4 much less an unsprung Stage 5. The key term here is "unsprung". This means no springs or in our tems no driveability. This will deffinatlly be a race only clutch, not intended for street driving. The thing you said about reving a little higher to try and slip a little on take off, that is what I do with my 3. You won't stand a chance with an unsprung S5. I would try calling SPEC's tech line and asking them what they think you need. I promise they won't say "Stage 5". Oh, and a Street twin is nothing more than an over priced, over weight, alternative to a real clutch. No way I'd buy something that weighs 30 lbs. more than what I had.
lol i agree with you on the mcloud 100% but i dont think this stage 5 will be that bad to drive! i talked ot the guy at SPEC and he agrees that its not bad at all! well either way i have it now and ill be putting it in this week when my other parts get here and i will let you guys know how bad it is! who knows i might be wrong but i doubt it will be as bad as everyone thinks
Old Jul 28, 2003 | 08:56 PM
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you'll be happy with it ... Everyone has their own opinion of what is "daily drivable", and what isn't. I give my stage 4 two thumbs up
Old Jul 28, 2003 | 09:24 PM
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Your flywheel is going to be grooved more than a set of disk brakes with no lining left if that thing has a high iron content.
Old Jul 28, 2003 | 09:39 PM
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I rode in my friend's Integra once, who had a 6 puck unsprung clutch.... don't remember the material it was made out of. There was *NO* slip. The chatter sounded like tire chirps.
Old Jul 28, 2003 | 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by Shawn 97 Z28 M6
you'll be happy with it ... Everyone has their own opinion of what is "daily drivable", and what isn't. I give my stage 4 two thumbs up
i hear you there! just like these guys that say the 306 cam is too wild yea right that thing was too tame it wasnt NEARLY as bad as most people said it was! my buddy listened to TOO MANY of the wrong people and he got the hotcam at the same time i got my 306 and we put my 306 in first and he thought it was bad ***.. then we put his hotcam in and boy was he DISSAPOINTED all that work for a pile of crap cam

right now im running a 242/248 and i couldnt love it more like u said most people blow whats streetable outa proportion
Old Aug 2, 2003 | 02:33 AM
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well i got it in and well DAYUM this thing DOES mean BUSINESS i think i might have been wrong on this choice! this clutch is PRETTY NASTY... it makes some kind of screecing sound when i release it to go! it only does it when im in gear.. when im in neutral i can push the clutch in and out and it sounds fine! but when i put it in first and start to let it out theres like a qreccccchhhhh and then it jerks and its fine after that it does it a lil in second and barely in third is this just how the disc is
Old Aug 2, 2003 | 02:36 AM
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Get a torque converter.
Old Aug 2, 2003 | 02:53 AM
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Originally posted by Kain
Get a torque converter.
dude i hope you were only kidding around
Old Aug 2, 2003 | 07:17 AM
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It'll make that noise if you're trying to slip it. At least, mine does as well as a stage 3 ceramic pucked car I've driven. Be a little quicker on the clutch release and it oughtta be quiet.
Old Aug 2, 2003 | 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by Shawn 97 Z28 M6
It'll make that noise if you're trying to slip it. At least, mine does as well as a stage 3 ceramic pucked car I've driven. Be a little quicker on the clutch release and it oughtta be quiet.
gash dangit i kinda had that feeling! well im gonna take it back out today and just put my centerforce back in for now till i can get something different! my car sounds ghey when im sitting next to other cars and its all lopey and sounds beefy and people are checkin my sh*t out then all the sudden the light turns green and screeeeccchhhh i go off the line sounds like my car is a pile then i cant be havin that its stalled TWICE on me already and I NEVER stall my car! this thing is PRETTY RUTHLESS



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