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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 12:25 PM
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Question about cam degreeing!

Can you degree any cam for a LT1? And what is necessary to degree a cam? Do you have to have an electric water pump or a double roller timing chain?

I just wonder if my car problems are due to timing and the cam not being degreed in.
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 02:53 PM
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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 03:18 PM
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I guess I'd ask whast your problems are?

I believe many/most cams are designed to provide the correct degrees when they are installed straight up with the timing dots. I.e, if you have a cam designed to provide 4 Deg.advanced timing, that if you install it correctly, you will get 4 Deg. advance.

I understand that it is important to have a correctly degreed cam, however, I didn't know that it was a modern-day problem.JMHO
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 03:25 PM
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Re: Question about cam degreeing!

Originally posted by LT1ponykilla
Can you degree any cam for a LT1? And what is necessary to degree a cam? Do you have to have an electric water pump or a double roller timing chain?

I just wonder if my car problems are due to timing and the cam not being degreed in.
Comp Cams website has complete instructions.

Checking is the easiest (but not easy if engine is in the car) procedure, but adjusting it is the problem. You need adjustable cam drive parts, which aren't that easy on a LT1.

I agree with BUBBA.

What are the problems and what are engine specs. That's a good place to start.

Lots of times problems are either improper installation or a bad choice of cam timing rather than improper degreeing. Not saying this is your case, but it does happen.
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 03:47 PM
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I thought that you couldn't manually adjust the timing on cams in LT1s because it throws the computer off. I believe you have to have the timing changes ground in. Is this correct?

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Old Sep 22, 2003 | 03:50 PM
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Never heard of anyone degreeing their cams on this site.
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 04:13 PM
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Here are and were the problems.

I had a compression test done last week. I had 0 compression on cylinder #1. Come to find out I had a RR set to tight holding the valve open. We reset all the RR's and did another compression test and everything was ok. The car still seems to have a miss somewhere. It backfires some at high RPMS. I have starting problems. The plugs n wires have been changed. I thought it may be the opti but I had the car SCOPED and the only miss I had was on cylinder number one due to no compression. I havent taken the timing cover off to see if the dots were lined up correctly but they shouldve been. This is just really frusturating.
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 04:25 PM
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I assume that you pre loaded your RRs correctly.
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 04:28 PM
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And...how about your FP? SB around stock, unless your programmer compensated for something other than around 45-47 at WOT.

Just some thoughts.
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 04:31 PM
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FP is ok. What is SB???

Im thinking the timing may be off. I have no clue at this point. Its just pissing me off.
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 04:51 PM
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SB=Should Be.

Good luck.
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 04:55 PM
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Thanks man! I need it.
Old Sep 22, 2003 | 10:34 PM
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Old Sep 23, 2003 | 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by Slow95car
i disagree with that. cams can be way off even if the dots are lined up. lining the dots up and not checking it means you are assuming everything is machined correctly. We are only talkin minute measurements here. The timing set could have been machined wrong, the crank keyway cut wrong, etc. rarely are the cams the fault, mainly the timing chain.
You disagree with that, and from a person who has degreed cams, I agree with you.

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Never heard of anyone degreeing their cams on this site.
Well, you certainly could have, you've been around long enuf. It HAS been discussed B4.

As also stated, your routine/typical sbc cam timing adjustment options are complicated by the LTX platform.

Although, in this case, I believe the problem source is elsewhere.

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Old Sep 23, 2003 | 08:26 PM
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Thanks people!
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