I have been calling around town and they want 3500 just for the machine work to be done to the block.

This includes forged internals and bored .30 over.

However, that seems extremely high for machine work.

I noticed this online. It seems like a really good deal for the money.

http://www.golensengineservice.com/d...m?EngineID=117

They also have a 350 version that I could prolly get a steel crank if I called and talked to them for a little more then their advertised price.

http://www.golensengineservice.com/d...fm?EngineID=65

Also, has anyone purchased from them before?

Thanks.

 

I won't say anything bad about them since I've never personally used Golan. You may check with some of the board vendors and see what kind of deal they can work for you.

 

Well, you didnt say anything good about them either.

Maybe you could point me to a topic that talks about this company's engines. I am unable to find anything by using the search function.

 

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...ighlight=golen

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...ighlight=golen

 

You can get a really nicely built shortblock for less then that.. Shop around...

 

I recently ordered a 355, it was $2500 from APE. Here's the build:

There are cheaper builds out there though, you can probably get it done for under $2k with no problem. I just felt more comfortable with this guy's background, so I spent a little more.

 

This discussion is not very well focused. A "short block" is not a generic commodity. Without being very specific about what you are getting it's pointless to compare prices. A $2,500 shortblock could be overpriced and a $15,000 shortblock a bargain. Decide what you need and what your budget is, then see how close you come to matching up these conflicting priorities.

You also need to decide what you are building. Proper choice of engine components will depend on what you plan to use the motor for.

Rich Krause

 

True... My example wasn't meant to address all points, just showing what I got and what I paid. His requirements may be totally different than mine, but this at least is a bit of a point of reference.

 

Dang, that looks familiar.

I just got a new shortblock from AP myself, same setup as above, but cost me $2779 because of some extra stuff I had done. I've got nothing but good things to say about that company. They've even been keeping a tab on my threads while I'm trying to get everything sorted out on the new motor. Very experienced people, the price is pretty good, and you definitely will be happy with your experience if you choose them.

 

That looks like a very good deal. Do you have to ship them your block and then they do the rebuild or is this off the shelf block that you can purchase from them?

I also noticed that the rods say

Eagle H-Beam Connecting Rods. Are those forged?
And is the crank forged steel?

If not, is it even necessary for a goal of 400RWHP? I figure if its getting rebuilt I might as well have it done right!

It looks as though its actually cheaper for me to purchase a rebuilt block from someone out of state than to take my own block and get it rebuilt here intown. I could always do it myself, but I dont have that kind of time unfortunantly.

Did you have to call APE to get that engine setup you listed? I was looking on thier site and didnt see this engine.

Also to answer your question Rich,

I am planning on a 350 or 355. 355 preferably. I am trying to get in touch with lloyd to decide what head/cam package would best suite my needs. I am planning on somewhere around 400RWHP is what my goals are. I didnt want to get car components that wouldnt be needed for my setup but this is what I had in mind.

Rebuilt 355 engine with forged internals and steel crankshaft. LE2 Heads from lloyd with his cam package or possibly the cc306. Jet Hot Long Tubes, Dual Exhaust No Cats, 52mm TB, and all other small supporting mods, IE CAI etc.

 

The crank is a Eagle ESP Cast, the Rods are 5.7" Eagle ESP H-Beam 4340 Forged.

You ship them your block, and they take care of it from there. I sent them a complete shortblock, which they charged about $100 or so to strip down.

I'll put it to you this way: This motor is re-used main caps with ARP studs, 2 bolt mains, and the components listed above. AP everything but guaranteed I'm going to be fine with my setup, which should be pushing 6800-7000 RPM and making a healthy 400+ HP at the wheels.

Also, this motor is the AP "Cheap Street 355." It should be listed onthe website still.

 

I live in AK so shipping would be spendy I would imagine. I will try giving them a call during the work week and guestimate how many lbs my block is and then see if fedex would ship it and how much it is going to run me.

I did see the cheap street 355 however there wasnt a price so I didnt want to assume.

Thanks again for your help. Depending on shipping I may see if someone here in town can do it for around 2500.

 

The cheap street is $2500, $300 core charge if you want to just order the short block, then ship your old one back, you get the $300 back. For shipping, I guesstimated $200 to be on the safe side. Grand total of $3k. It'll probably be $160 or so from Michigan to Virginia for me though.

 

FedEx freight is pretty good. From Baltimore to Detriot, it cost $165 to ship my complete shortblock, oil pan and all.

 

Get a GM shortblock.Cost effective and a guarantee.You can get a 383 if you want or a long block that is all assembled and you put your intake and accessories on it.