PCM For Less help a stockish car?
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From: Wisconsin
Originally posted by z28importkilla
i have a cold air intake, lt4 KM, Granatelli mass air meter, High flow cat, and a catback exhaust, and a trick flow elbow. I recently bought a PCMFORLESS tune and loaded it myself tonight. I am to say the least, very happy with it. The car is a lot more powerful especially in the upper rpm range. All i have to do is figure out my hesitation, any ideas? Low rpm stumble and high rpm miss. It gets worst the higher the gear i am in. If i am in 5th at 2000 rpms and stomp on it it just bogs....forget even trying 6th
i have a cold air intake, lt4 KM, Granatelli mass air meter, High flow cat, and a catback exhaust, and a trick flow elbow. I recently bought a PCMFORLESS tune and loaded it myself tonight. I am to say the least, very happy with it. The car is a lot more powerful especially in the upper rpm range. All i have to do is figure out my hesitation, any ideas? Low rpm stumble and high rpm miss. It gets worst the higher the gear i am in. If i am in 5th at 2000 rpms and stomp on it it just bogs....forget even trying 6th
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Originally posted by z28importkilla
i have a cold air intake, lt4 KM, Granatelli mass air meter, High flow cat, and a catback exhaust, and a trick flow elbow. I recently bought a PCMFORLESS tune and loaded it myself tonight. I am to say the least, very happy with it. The car is a lot more powerful especially in the upper rpm range. All i have to do is figure out my hesitation, any ideas? Low rpm stumble and high rpm miss. It gets worst the higher the gear i am in. If i am in 5th at 2000 rpms and stomp on it it just bogs....forget even trying 6th
i have a cold air intake, lt4 KM, Granatelli mass air meter, High flow cat, and a catback exhaust, and a trick flow elbow. I recently bought a PCMFORLESS tune and loaded it myself tonight. I am to say the least, very happy with it. The car is a lot more powerful especially in the upper rpm range. All i have to do is figure out my hesitation, any ideas? Low rpm stumble and high rpm miss. It gets worst the higher the gear i am in. If i am in 5th at 2000 rpms and stomp on it it just bogs....forget even trying 6th
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I thought they were about the same price PCM4LESS and Madwold? Whoever cuts me the better deal is getting my business......plus I hear Brain lets you update free using the cable and e-mail only 20bucks more.
They are both awesome from what i hear. We owe them thanks
They are both awesome from what i hear. We owe them thanks
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From: Weatherford, TX - DFW area
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the cable is from www.akmcables.com. That cost $95. The PCMFORLESS tune was 50 bucks and a extra $25 for unlimited updates should you modify your car more. I ordered mine on a monday night and had it by wednesday.
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OK I have a 93 Lt1 so I think I need the cable for the ODB1 and where do I get the software to burn my own chip? Does this also allow you to do data aquisition real time from the car. Can you log the data? Does anyone have this software I can get a copy of? Is the Piggyback a better idea than burning my own chip? Should let someone burn my chip or use the Puggyback instead? I am a Network Administrator and I have used some software before for a customer of mine that burned a chip for the programmable keys, so I am sort of firmiliar.
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Originally posted by z28importkilla
the cable is from www.akmcables.com. That cost $95. The PCMFORLESS tune was 50 bucks and a extra $25 for unlimited updates should you modify your car more. I ordered mine on a monday night and had it by wednesday.
the cable is from www.akmcables.com. That cost $95. The PCMFORLESS tune was 50 bucks and a extra $25 for unlimited updates should you modify your car more. I ordered mine on a monday night and had it by wednesday.
. He gaurantees at least 13 RWHP. Thats the better deal IMO.
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I have had both Ion's and Bryan's base tunes on my current setup. I went to a dyno day where Bryan was tuning and here are the exact results:
Run 1 - Madwolf base tune, 346hp/337tq AF, AF ratio of 11.9
Run 2- Pcmforless base tune....what I would have gotten as a mail order tune, 356hp/350tq, AF ratio of 12.3
Run 3- This one doesn't really matter for comparison because it was "custom" tuning while on the dyno.
Both tunes were good. In my personal experience the pcmforless base tune was better, but I am sure there are others who have had opposite experiences. Also, just for me personally Ion is very difficult to get in touch with through email.
Run 1 - Madwolf base tune, 346hp/337tq AF, AF ratio of 11.9
Run 2- Pcmforless base tune....what I would have gotten as a mail order tune, 356hp/350tq, AF ratio of 12.3
Run 3- This one doesn't really matter for comparison because it was "custom" tuning while on the dyno.
Both tunes were good. In my personal experience the pcmforless base tune was better, but I am sure there are others who have had opposite experiences. Also, just for me personally Ion is very difficult to get in touch with through email.
Last edited by whontime; May 7, 2004 at 04:19 PM.