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Old Jan 25, 2014 | 01:39 PM
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Dont get discouraged. Thats what we are here for. Make a video of what it does and put it on youtube then post it here ill look at it. Are you sure it has good gas in it? Have youbtried starting fluid with the new opti?
Old Jan 25, 2014 | 01:41 PM
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Or is it still not getting spark? If its not getting spark still it may be the coil and icm i have a few spares i think. It also could be the pcm.
Old Jan 25, 2014 | 02:12 PM
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Dont get discouraged. Thats what we are here for. Make a video of what it does and put it on youtube then post it here ill look at it. Are you sure it has good gas in it? Have youbtried starting fluid with the new opti?

The spark is awful. And by the way it cranks I feel there is no compression
Old Jan 25, 2014 | 02:35 PM
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your video link does not work

so you bought a car that didn't run.....

opti, coil, ICM are common suspects but you have replaced those and still no start.

Do you have fuel pressure with key on, engine off?

did you remove valve covers and watch valve train go up/down while you crank?

if one, or more, rockers don't move....you have internal motor problems

did you drain oil and if so was there any metel shavings in it?
Old Jan 25, 2014 | 11:03 PM
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Yeah the video is private, just go to your settings for the video on make it public.

But it very well could have a snapped timing chain or a bad one or broken teeth on either of the timing gears. if thats what it is thats easy to fix but to say it will run right after that is untelling. But theres a very good chance it can. When i did the cam swap in my 93 the timing chain was so loose that i could grab it just where it comes off the crank gear and lift up the cain would come off the cam gear upto the 11 oclock area. My new chain doesnt budge. I was lucky and could reuse my crank and cam gears
Old Jan 25, 2014 | 11:08 PM
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And what do you mean by spark is awful? Go on youtube and lookup 9302z28ss i had my rockers too tight when i finished my cam swap, it acted like i had no compression. What i would do is back all of the rockers off untill you can move the pushrod up and down then slowly tighten them to the point where the pushrod cant be moved up and down. Then try starting it. If it fires up shut it right back down and lookup how to adjust the rockers you have. Weather it be stock or roller
Old Jan 27, 2014 | 03:07 PM
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Well I have been thinking about this no compression thing and it really doesn't make sense. Ican compression test it but I'm limited to sat and Sunday to work on it. If I had no compression my engine would be turning over much faster than it currently is because of the lack of resistance. There Is supposedly a high torque starter which I see is nearly new. When I take the starter off and turn the key it turns slowly. I'm going to pull off the start and bring it to the store to Get tested. I also noticed a bunch of vaccum leaks last time I was messing with it and the egr was extremely loose causing air to get it. I was able to get in contact with the owner who did the original work to the car,2 owners ago, and he said it has a racing cam and rockers. I feel that the pack of starting power and vacuum leaks are the issue. Let me know if this shines light on anything.
Old Jan 27, 2014 | 04:09 PM
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Re: "New" z28 no start

Is that a "multi-electrode" plug? What brand and part #?
Old Jan 27, 2014 | 04:39 PM
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Re: "New" z28 no start

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Is that a "multi-electrode" plug? What brand and part #?
Just a plug I had lying around
Old Jan 27, 2014 | 07:26 PM
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it looks like youre still getting weak spark, pull the spark plug wire off the coil, and see how the spark looks, if its nice blue/white spark the opti you got may be bad, but it looks like its consistant spark, and make sure your battery is FULLY charged, cause i know mine wont start with a low battery,

did you ask the old owner if he ever had the car run after he was done with it? if so we know the motor will run maybe the other guy screwed with the rockers and its hanging valves open
Old Jan 28, 2014 | 11:54 AM
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The reason I found out about the cam was because while I was looking through some paper work and found receipts for the transmission. I figured I would give then a call and ask if they would want to buy it off of me. Well he remembered the car exactly and said the car would break loose with the amount of work it had very easily. So I found the original owner and he said it had the cam and what not. The owner right before I had it said he drove it into the garage and went to start it in the cold and had no luck. My plan now is to do a compression test, get the starter checked. Charge the battery fully. Grab another battery from my monte carlo and try to start it with both batteries and possibly a new starter. I'll give it one last chance knowing the work in the motor.
Old Jan 28, 2014 | 08:06 PM
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I just was able to hear the audio in the video. It does seem like you have weak to no compression. But before you do the test make sure you do like i said and loosen all of those rockers. But before take off the valve covers and make sure the valves are opening and closing right. Rent a micro camera also if you can. Theyre made to get into tight areas and see what it looks like. Stick the cam into the spark plug hole and look at the pistons and make sure a valve didnt blow a hole into one or more by timing jumping. Or having signs of coolant in the cyl. It will look really rusty or have coolant in the cyl. It also could need piston rings ive seen motors run one day and be left in the cold and it shink and crack the compression rings on the pistons. If thats the case the heads and oil pan will need removed and the pistons 1 by 1 removed and re ringed. Ive re ringed lt1s with the motor still in the car.
Old Jan 29, 2014 | 02:06 PM
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I'm going to try and run a compression test Saturday and see what my numbers will be.
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