My 6200 mile oil analysis results with German Castrol 0w30
03-18-2004, 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by Chris 96 WS6
Patman, I ran that oil for about 3 months on your recommendation. I did not do an analysis but it was SOOOO thin I couldn't stand to leave it in there...was like pouring water into the motor, LOL.
I'm definitely after max bearing protection since every year I get by w/o having to build a new shortblock is, well, just that...another year I can get by without having to build another shortblock
Patman, I ran that oil for about 3 months on your recommendation. I did not do an analysis but it was SOOOO thin I couldn't stand to leave it in there...was like pouring water into the motor, LOL.
I'm definitely after max bearing protection since every year I get by w/o having to build a new shortblock is, well, just that...another year I can get by without having to build another shortblock
03-18-2004, 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by eagleknight97
Patman, whats your take on the specialty high mileage oils out there? Just a complete waste of money? Hurt the engine? Help it out? My cars got 92000 on it and its only seen dino oil, 5W-30, but its been a mix of diff brands. Ive only had the car for the last 20000, and ive been using either Castrol GTX or Valvoline High Mileage. So yeah.
Patman, whats your take on the specialty high mileage oils out there? Just a complete waste of money? Hurt the engine? Help it out? My cars got 92000 on it and its only seen dino oil, 5W-30, but its been a mix of diff brands. Ive only had the car for the last 20000, and ive been using either Castrol GTX or Valvoline High Mileage. So yeah.
03-18-2004, 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by z28marine
Now, is this oil recommended for very cold weather or all weather? I saw that you said it was pretty cold where you were and the oil happens to be super thin. But, what about during the summer and warmer weather....its about 85 right now, and i know this summer is gonna be 100+...would you still recommend this oil?
Now, is this oil recommended for very cold weather or all weather? I saw that you said it was pretty cold where you were and the oil happens to be super thin. But, what about during the summer and warmer weather....its about 85 right now, and i know this summer is gonna be 100+...would you still recommend this oil?
03-18-2004, 08:47 AM
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Originally posted by Hotwire
I just got an K&N HP-2002, it doesn't have an anti-drain back valve!!!!!!!!! wtf!?!?!? I realized it when I took off the first one and didn't get the usual oil shower down the oil filter!
I just got an K&N HP-2002, it doesn't have an anti-drain back valve!!!!!!!!! wtf!?!?!? I realized it when I took off the first one and didn't get the usual oil shower down the oil filter!
03-18-2004, 08:49 AM
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Originally posted by Xride
anywehre in Canada have this?
anywehre in Canada have this?
03-18-2004, 08:52 AM
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Re: Re: Re: My 6200 mile oil analysis results with German Castrol 0w30
Originally posted by Injuneer
I hope you're a friend of Patman's, and this is just a joke..... otherwise we may need to take some "corrective action", since you've violated the rules you agreed to when joining the site.
I hope you're a friend of Patman's, and this is just a joke..... otherwise we may need to take some "corrective action", since you've violated the rules you agreed to when joining the site.
I have no idea who that guy 96TurboTA is, it sounds like someone just trying to stir up trouble.
03-18-2004, 10:12 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: My 6200 mile oil analysis results with German Castrol 0w30
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I have no idea who that guy 96TurboTA is, it sounds like someone just trying to stir up trouble.
I have no idea who that guy 96TurboTA is, it sounds like someone just trying to stir up trouble.
03-18-2004, 10:16 AM
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I can't believe how "off base" that guy is.... its great to have someone who does his homework, and post FACTS, supported with data. Much better than the guys who come on here and give you the ol' "Mobile (sic) 1 is junk, I use WalMart drain oil cuz its gud and lasts for 8,000 miles be4 i have to change it and it hasn't hurt my car yet".
03-18-2004, 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by LameRandomName
Dan -
To the best of my knowledge, synthetic doesn't eat gaskets. Some folks got the impression it does because it has a detergent effect on any engine it's in and old, dried out gaskets that are currently not leaking because they are plugged with sludge will begin to leak after the synthetic washes the sludge away.
Of course, I'm open to any data you might have that would show otherwise.
Dan -
To the best of my knowledge, synthetic doesn't eat gaskets. Some folks got the impression it does because it has a detergent effect on any engine it's in and old, dried out gaskets that are currently not leaking because they are plugged with sludge will begin to leak after the synthetic washes the sludge away.
Of course, I'm open to any data you might have that would show otherwise.
There is an additive called a swelling agent that is added to motor oils that is designed to swell your gaskets and keep them tight (i.e. prevent leaking). Synthetic oils typically use less (or none) of this agent, hence the gaskets shrink and you get leakage.
Perhaps you have seen the advertisements for high mileage synthetis oils? All they are doing is adding more swelling agent to compensate for leaky gaskets in older engines.
Hope you find this useful...
03-18-2004, 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by Patman
Definitely! I ran it last summer and will be doing so again. Since it's so close to being a 0w40, and in fact turned into a 0w40 in my case, it's got that thicker protection for when the oil temps get hotter. It's got a HTHS number of 3.6, which is a good number that indicates it doesn't thin down too much when it gets put under high temps and high stress. For comparison, Mobil 1 5w30 and 10w30 have an HTHS value of only 3.0 to 3.1.
Definitely! I ran it last summer and will be doing so again. Since it's so close to being a 0w40, and in fact turned into a 0w40 in my case, it's got that thicker protection for when the oil temps get hotter. It's got a HTHS number of 3.6, which is a good number that indicates it doesn't thin down too much when it gets put under high temps and high stress. For comparison, Mobil 1 5w30 and 10w30 have an HTHS value of only 3.0 to 3.1.
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03-18-2004, 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by mebanditws6
Patman, how would this stuff compare to Mobil 1 0w40? I tend to think the 0w40 may have a higher HTHS number than M1's 5w30 and 10w30. For the last few months, the M1 0w40 and K@N oil filter have been my favorite combo and have gotten some of my friends to run this, one on his 95 LT1, and the other a 79 Z28 with a warmed over 350 since break in 7k miles ago. But your results have me thinking twice. What is your opinion on M1 0w40 vs GC 0w30?
Jason
Patman, how would this stuff compare to Mobil 1 0w40? I tend to think the 0w40 may have a higher HTHS number than M1's 5w30 and 10w30. For the last few months, the M1 0w40 and K@N oil filter have been my favorite combo and have gotten some of my friends to run this, one on his 95 LT1, and the other a 79 Z28 with a warmed over 350 since break in 7k miles ago. But your results have me thinking twice. What is your opinion on M1 0w40 vs GC 0w30?
Jason
03-18-2004, 07:13 PM
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Originally posted by SweetZRag
I recently visited a company called Ehtyl and they make the additives that go into motor oils for most of the major manufacturers. I learned a few things I thought you might be interested in.
There is an additive called a swelling agent that is added to motor oils that is designed to swell your gaskets and keep them tight (i.e. prevent leaking). Synthetic oils typically use less (or none) of this agent, hence the gaskets shrink and you get leakage.
Perhaps you have seen the advertisements for high mileage synthetis oils? All they are doing is adding more swelling agent to compensate for leaky gaskets in older engines.
Hope you find this useful...
I recently visited a company called Ehtyl and they make the additives that go into motor oils for most of the major manufacturers. I learned a few things I thought you might be interested in.
There is an additive called a swelling agent that is added to motor oils that is designed to swell your gaskets and keep them tight (i.e. prevent leaking). Synthetic oils typically use less (or none) of this agent, hence the gaskets shrink and you get leakage.
Perhaps you have seen the advertisements for high mileage synthetis oils? All they are doing is adding more swelling agent to compensate for leaky gaskets in older engines.
Hope you find this useful...
