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Old Sep 14, 2003 | 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by scoobysnax83
yea, but the old muscle cars were by no means compressing mixture at 10.5:1.
Yeah, I'm afraid you are going to have to eat those words (as Josh-'97 WS6 pointed out) . As a single example: the stock 400 that was in the 1967-69 442's was 10.5:1 compression and had warning stickers to use premium fuel only.
Old Sep 14, 2003 | 02:53 PM
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I know this is waaaaaay over simplified, but as a general rule lift makes the torque, and duration determines where in the rpm range the torque comes in.
Old Sep 14, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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You may want to do a search. There were some very long and informative cam discussions over in "Advanced Tech" within the last year. To rehash it all now......I just don't have the time and energy at this moment. But as others have pointed out, the two cams you mentioned are very close.

To really answer the question of what would be optimal for you, you need to give a lot more detail about your combo. How do you plan to use it, auto or manual tranny, gears, what fuel, what's more important (drivability, emissions, low and mid range performance vs. top end power) and two biggies: what is your compression ratio and do you have head flow numbers, etc.?

In very, very general terms the current trend in high performance street cams is more lift/degree of duration. This is a good trend, but like everything else it can be taken too far. The CC XE lobes are good examples of this philosophy. I am a big fan of them, but they are not the be all and end all for every use.

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Old Sep 14, 2003 | 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by rskrause
The CC XE lobes are good examples of this philosophy. I am a big fan of them, but they are not the be all and end all for every use.

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Old Sep 14, 2003 | 04:46 PM
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Thanks for the replies. My goals for the car are 400 rwhp na, and I do take it to the track a fair amount, but it is also my daily driver. So i guess I am looking for max power that may pass emissions with a good tune.
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Old Sep 14, 2003 | 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by Brandon 95 Z28
Thanks for the replies. My goals for the car are 400 rwhp na, and I do take it to the track a fair amount, but it is also my daily driver. So i guess I am looking for max power that may pass emissions with a good tune.
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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by Josh-'97 WS6
Not true. Old "musclecar" cams from the 60's had huge duration numbers but small lift. Those cams get their asses kicked by modern cams with way less duration, but improved lift and ramp profiles.
Alot of people get confused with advertised duration and duration @ .050. Big difference in numbers.

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Old Sep 15, 2003 | 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by 96-speed
Alot of people get confused with advertised duration and duration @ .050. Big difference in numbers.

Ryan
Not confused. Many "musclecars" had cams well into 230-240 @.050" range....from the factory!
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