LT4 Knock Module
Re: LT4 Knock Module
Its a small chip that inserts in the 94-97 PCMs, to filter out the mechanical noise associated with the Crane old roller rockers that were used in the 1996 Corvette LT4 engines. If you have "false" knock, causing the PCM to retard the timing, the LT4KM may help you eliminate that false knock, and the performance loss it causes.
Last edited by Injuneer; May 19, 2006 at 09:28 AM.
Re: LT4 Knock Module
"Knock" gernerally occurs under heavier acceleration, but not at likely when the engine is cold. And you aren't likely to "hear" knock at all, since the knock sensor can hear it way before you can, and the PCM retards the timing until the knock is gone. If you can actually hear knock, you have a serious problem, but I don't think that's what you are hearing. If you know anyone with an OBD-II scanner, they can hook it up and watch for knock retard as you accelerate. That would provide a clear answer.
Ticks when the engine is cold are often exhaust gasket leaks.
Ticks when the engine is cold are often exhaust gasket leaks.
Re: LT4 Knock Module
Originally Posted by Injuneer
Ticks when the engine is cold are often exhaust gasket leaks.
Re: LT4 Knock Module
Originally Posted by Sick97SS
I had my knock sensor "desensitized" at Madz28.com. But i still fear that i have false knock and i wonder which is better... a lt4Km or the desensitized one?? hmmm.
Re: LT4 Knock Module
Originally Posted by Sick97SS
I had my knock sensor "desensitized" at Madz28.com. But i still fear that i have false knock and i wonder which is better... a lt4Km or the desensitized one?? hmmm.
I haven't seen a bin file from a car that was "desensitized" but based on what tables are available, I am guessing that what is done is to make the car pull less timing when it sees knock. I've seen threads on programming forums where people were told to "desensitize" by setting all the values in the knock retard table to zero. Doing that would mean you have no protection from real knock.
The LT4KM, on the other hand, makes the car see less false knock, but it will still pull timing by the stock amount when it hears (presumably real) knock.
Re: LT4 Knock Module
I bought mine from www.gmpartsdirect.com for 37 bucks. I verified with scans that there is no knock or timing retard with this LT4 knock module. I didn't do a scan on the LT1 module so I don't know if I had any to start. I can say that there is none with the LT4 though.
David
David
Re: LT4 Knock Module
Originally Posted by Honda Hunter
Pretty much the same thing I hear. I'm told it can be done through the computer or with the lt4km. Did nothing for me that I could notice.
On the other hand, engines ran for 40 years without knock sensors, and somehow survived without them, as does my engine.
Re: LT4 Knock Module
Originally Posted by Injuneer
Not the same. The LT4KM specificaly filters out known "false" signals, altering the PCM tables reduces the PCM's response to false AND true knock. One can't hurt your engine, the other can if the knock is severe enough.
On the other hand, engines ran for 40 years without knock sensors, and somehow survived without them, as does my engine.
On the other hand, engines ran for 40 years without knock sensors, and somehow survived without them, as does my engine.
Re: LT4 Knock Module
Originally Posted by Injuneer
Not the same. The LT4KM specificaly filters out known "false" signals, altering the PCM tables reduces the PCM's response to false AND true knock. One can't hurt your engine, the other can if the knock is severe enough.
On the other hand, engines ran for 40 years without knock sensors, and somehow survived without them, as does my engine.
On the other hand, engines ran for 40 years without knock sensors, and somehow survived without them, as does my engine.
Re: LT4 Knock Module
Originally Posted by JustNO
So nothing wrong with LT4KM?
The LT4 KM will only react to what it's tuned for.
Do a search and put it on a switch with the resistor. if it's false knock.
I have run SBC since the '50's and no knock sensor and never hurt one but ya got hyper-u-craptic pistons in an LT-1 and that's what the factory is protecting with the knock sensor.


