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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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LT4 kit or Supercharger?

So im dateing this girl and yesterday she tells me we are good freinds and nothing else, and here I thought we were a bit more than that! So im upset and angry. So what happens when the female gender upsets me? I put some goodies into my car- that makes me very happy

So heres the thing- Not sure what to do next really. Was thinking of an LT4 kit or just throw on a blower. If you guys dont like those ideas, then what do you suggest?

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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 10:52 AM
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Re: LT4 kit or Supercharger?

Originally Posted by robvas
Heads/Cam package other than the LT4 kit

The blower would rock but I wouldn't count on your engine lasting that long
Whats a good heads/cam package?

You dont think my engine would be able to handle a blower?
Old Mar 2, 2005 | 10:57 AM
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Re: LT4 kit or Supercharger?

Both are about 2K and both will give you about 100hp. The heads/cam can be done for a little less with a little more hp.
The Vortech type blowers work great on these cars.
Old Mar 2, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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Re: LT4 kit or Supercharger?

what blower are you finding for $2000????

for the H/C check out any one of our site sponsors, give them a call and tell them what you have as a hp goal and $$ and they'll hook you up.

and it's not your engine specifically that can't handle the boost...it's the LT1 in general. inferior pistons and high compression are bad for boost.
Old Mar 2, 2005 | 11:04 AM
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Re: LT4 kit or Supercharger?

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what blower are you finding for $2000????

for the H/C check out any one of our site sponsors, give them a call and tell them what you have as a hp goal and $$ and they'll hook you up.

and it's not your engine specifically that can't handle the boost...it's the LT1 in general. inferior pistons and high compression are bad for boost.
What would I have to do to the LT1 in order for it to handle a blower?
Old Mar 2, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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Re: LT4 kit or Supercharger?

Originally Posted by lovemyblackz28
So heres the thing- Not sure what to do next really. Was thinking of an LT4 kit or just throw on a blower.
LOL! "...just throw on a blower". I thought my Powerdyne for $2,799 was a great deal and a great easy way to make an extra 100 HP or so. 20K later here I am .....LOL!!!!
Old Mar 2, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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Re: LT4 kit or Supercharger?

Originally Posted by lovemyblackz28
What would I have to do to the LT1 in order for it to handle a blower?
Forged internals and lowered compression would make it last longer. IMO do a heads and cam swap first. www.eportworks.com
Old Mar 2, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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Re: LT4 kit or Supercharger?

but do you have stock internals??

forged pistons and drop the compression a bit and it will handle the boost alot better.

some people have good luck with SC their cars...others puke after 10k miles.

also depends on the age of the motor, and how much boost you run.
Old Mar 2, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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Re: LT4 kit or Supercharger?

My car is ten years old with 79,000 miles on it. Car runs well (knock on wood), just a slight oil leak from the heads I think, from what I understand is normal for these cars.

From what I hear so far, leaning towards heads/cam.

You scaryin me with my engine not being able to handle a blower
Old Mar 2, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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Re: LT4 kit or Supercharger?

If you already have a head gasket leak, why not do a heads/cam and kill 2 birds with one stone. Leaks may be common problems, but are certainly not a good thing.
Old Mar 2, 2005 | 11:23 AM
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Re: LT4 kit or Supercharger?

like my friend says "if u can afford a blower u have to afford teh rebuild"

i would reccomend staying away from the blower if u have stock internal

a heades and cam package would be ur best bet
Old Mar 2, 2005 | 11:33 AM
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Re: LT4 kit or Supercharger?

Is this a good kit?

lt4 kit
Or do I just go with heads/cam package?
Old Mar 2, 2005 | 12:00 PM
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Re: LT4 kit or Supercharger?

I would also recommend heads/cam over a blower for a stock internals engine.

The complete LT4 top end conversion kit that summit sells comes with the intake, heads, LT4 HOTcam kit and gaskets. You'll need new head bolts and a new timing chain and gears *I think*. Looks like the LT4 convertion kit is around $2300 plus those extra parts I mentioned above. Don't forget to put aside some money for oil and a filter, coolant, and other odds and ends.

I hope you have a lot of patience, because if this girl frustrated you by saying that you two are just friends then this heads/cam swap is going to take that to a whole new level

The LT4 conversion kit is good because it combines most of the things that you need in one package. It will give you a really nice horsepower increase and should still pass emmissions (at least it will where I am) while keeping excellent street manners. You should also get your PCM tuned via a mail order company or dyno tuning. You can get a mail order tune for less than $100 and those guys are pretty familiar with HOTcams so it should work out well for you.

This looks like the part # for what you need- NAL-GMP3287-1
Old Mar 2, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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Re: LT4 kit or Supercharger?

Seriously though, this is something you should research fanatically until you arrive at a wise decision. One thing to count on is you should budget for everything costing approximately 50 - 100% more than you think it will cost (especially if you're paying out labor). IMO heads/cam is going to be nearly as expensive if you pay for the labor and upgrade injectors, retune, etc ....and that's how it's done right.

Stay away from the LT4 setup ...too many people do it and wind up getting a more aggressive setup later.

I think if it were me and I had it to do over again I would either get a used low boost charger like my Powerdyne or a used S-Trim Vortech (preferred, that way you can up the boost later and intercool) or .....have Lloyd Elliot work up your stock heads and have a guru (not him ...sorry Lloyd, but you're awesome w/heads) custom match a cam to the flow numbers and your other criteria like gear ratio and header type (or save money and buy a used CC 305). Seriously, if you want max power and streetability find a "cam guru" in here ....someone who really understands the science of it, and get them to design the optimal cam for your setup .......that's WAY better than any off the shelf grind. IMO it depends on mileage too ....if you have a lot I wouldn't fool with either and would go with a built bottom end before doing anything else. If you supercharge with more than 6 PSI or use a cam that revs over 6,200 .....I would budget for an eventual/probable bottom end failure. I can get into more detail if you want, just e-mail me.
Old Mar 2, 2005 | 12:48 PM
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Re: LT4 kit or Supercharger?

The thing about it is, if you do a head/cam swap first and want to do a blower later, you will have to change cams again. Blowers don't like a lot of overlap in the valves but n/a does. You need to start with a future plan in mind. If you want to go with a blower later start looking at forged dished pistons and forged rods. This will bring down your compression and hurt power until the blower is added. But if you spend a lot of money on a n/a setup with really high compression, you are not going to want to put a blower on top of that. Figure out a plan and stick with it, otherwise you will end up wasting a lot of money and stuck trying to sell used parts. Think about this too. You see guys on here running high dollar n/a setups putting 400-430hp to the wheels. A lot of supercharged setups you see putting down 500-550hp to the wheels with a lot less money involved. I know blowers are not cheap but imo they make a hell of a lot more power for less. And btw, that lt4 kit is also a waste of money. You can get some good heads and cam for way less that makes much more power.



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