Here are a couple points I would like to make
1. the front end on the new camaros does look like crap
2. why would people spend so much more on an LS1 because of the cam and heads, when they are probably going to end up upgrading them anyway? upgrade the LT1 heads and cam for cheaper and have a faster car in the end for a lot less.
3. Like a lot of people said, sure the LS1 has 30-50 more hp over a stock LT1, but how many LT1 onwers keep them stock, and it isn't that hard to get 30-50 hp out of the LT1 anyway.
So get a cheaper car, upgrade it cheaper, look better too, and spank everything you see

 

That iS funny, wHere did yOu hear of this? Where have you heard of such finomina?

Jeeze/ Kids these days





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Ok first I had a 96 Z thn a 98 T/A now im back to a 97 Formula. My favorite is the car im in right now. I bought it for 7500 with 67000 miles and then I put 1100.00 in mods. I ported my own heads and got a comp xe grind,1.6rrs,Jet hot LT headers, and little things like K&N cai. The car *&^%ing moves period. The deal is yes the LS1 is better yes it has less problems...so far think about it whats the highest mileage LS1 and how many of those are there. There are 200,000 mile LT1s and alot more than 1 of them. So time will tell. The LS1 is stronger in a sence because it has 6 points of connection on the rear main but then again you could always splay your LT1. Also the LS1 shouldnt even be considered a small block the heads are completely different.. in the design aspect they are a big block head...the engine has a longer stroke so stock for stock of course its faster but I would rather buy a 230.00 cam than a 400.00 one and still have money left over for my valve train. All that matters is Do YOU like your car and engine if the answer is yes then just stay satisfied and mod the hell out of it evn if its neither and its just a v6 it's all on personal preference. So this looks like a lawnmower heh?

 

I can't believe I've read all 3 pages, anyhoo:

1) An LT1 engine bay lookin' like a lawnmower is just silly, especially if ya think stock coil packs on the LS1 look kewl (stunna)

2) Optispark does suck, but remember, it still revs over 500 rpms higher than its L98 predecessor.

3) It's drivetrain loyalty moreso than bigger or better, then again, it is a 350 not a 346. Think of it as the age-old mustang/camaro grudge.

4) Put all the over-the-years knowledge of working on YOUR car vice a newer LS1 if you haven't wrenched on or know of its finicky-ness and forget about all the "if I knew then what I know now" stuff and sure, LS1 all the way!

I still love the LT1, even though it appears the odds of me seeing 11's with no weight reductions and stock rims w/bolt-ons may be a little far-off from reality. Although, I haven't seen many LS1's do that feat either, so I'm not really all that worried just yet.

t/c

 

Sorry junior, my lawnmower engine has a redline of 6700 rpms

stock LS1 > stock LT1
bolt on LS1 > bolt on LT1
heads cam LS1 > heads/cam LT1

so, in conclusion LS1 > LT1

I almost sold my '94 Formula in favor for an LS1 a couple of years ago, but I just can't bring myself to have car payments. If you do end up with an LS1, get a 99+. 98's have an oil pump problem that occurs after 70-80k miles...I've got two friends who have lost engines to this.

 

This is like what's better, a 426 Hemi or a 454 Chevy? It will be debated forever. What it comes down to is personal preferance. Some people like GM, some like Chrysler (some weirdos even like Ford ) But saying that people who have LT1s can't afford LS1s is like saying everyone who has an F-car wanted a Corvette, but couldn't afford it. True an LT1 was more in my price range, but if I had wanted an LS1 that badly, I would have found the money. True, the LS1s make more power, but saying that they are better is like saying a black car is better than a red one.

 

Buy a 327 out of a 2000+ silverado, Best of both worlds! cast block and new style heads, I LOVE the engine in my silverado and with the SLP exhaust, Sounds Bad too!

 

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shorten your sig btw

 

I came across this situation just a few months ago - I'm sure some people on here still have nightmares about all of the questions I asked.

Basically, I wanted to sell my 96 Z28 for a 99+ SS or WS6...

Here are my reasons for reconsidering.

1. About 10 grand difference...
2. What's the chance of finding another low mileage car from adult owners that maintained it religiously?
3. Still a 5.7L engine... I would have done a headswap, more agressive cam, headers, exhaust, intake stuff, etc... on an LS1 anyway... doing the same on my car as compared to doing it on an LS1 pretty much gets you equal power from both engines.
4. Sales tax on the newer car is a waste of $.
5. LT1 mods are much cheaper.
6. Why do I need to go down the street at warp speed? I personally think it's just fun to hook up whatever car you've got... more bang for the buck (unless you've got rice.)
7. I'm saving up for a down payment on a new sports car when I graduate college... parents putting a lot of money towards it too... 3.5 years to go!

Hope I've helped a little...


EDITl: Also, heads and stuff can get you a 7,000 redline. Beat that LS1.

 

wrong, LS1 will respond much better


Ls6= 6500 rpm redline... STOCK

 

I disagree, mainly due to what I've seen & witnessed both at the track and on the street. There are some extremely sweet running LS1-powered fbodies out there, but go to any track anywhere in the country during an fbody event, and I'll bet you'll find the head/cam guys running very similar numbers. After the bolt-on power of the LS1 (mainly headers), the mods are basically what you pay for-throw down more $=lower ET's.
Also, take for instance, companies like SLP, I love their products, but hell, they didn't follow through with that motor like they did with the LS1, they don't even offer long-tubes for an LT1 engine. Pretty ghey if you ask me, since I bought half their product line practically. But anyways, I disagree Trey.

Also, an LS6 is not an LS1, as an LT4 is not an LT1, etc.

So the later have an LS6 intake, that's sweet but still no complete LS6. And if one recalls, the LT4 was indeed a slightly different animal than the LT1, thus, so is a Z06 vette as opposed to its standard vette brother.

I like 'em all, but still favor the LT1 cars. But everyone's got their own opinon, which is cool.
We should all take this energy and go have a shootout vs. mustangs now.

 

Like I said, 7000 redline with some good heads. It's all in what the valvetrain can handle. Let's say you do a head upgrade on both cars... they'll both have a 7,000 rpm redline and flow just as well. However, the gap between the aftermarket heads and the LS6 heads would be lower than the gap between the aftermarket heads and LT1 heads. Therefore, LT1 would see a larger increase in performance than the LS6 would see. This is just a general idea... of course the cam and tuning and stuff would need to be done too, etc... but if you've got the flow and are pumping in sufficient fuel, you've got the power.

 

I have Intake, Headers, Catback...and I pull on LS1's like there is no tomorrow...ahhhh.....and I only spent 800 then + another 8000 for the car...I love my car

 

Black Cars ARE Better. I remember 2 years ago I saw soem stats that showed Red cars got hit more than anyother colored cars in traffic. AND Red cars have higher insurance Rates in most aggencies.

 

Yes but the money I pay more in insurance you double at the car wash!