LT1 ported heads, with LT4 hotcam kit and summit forged kit --> 400HP N/A??
Here's a thread referencing several LT4 Hot-Cam dyno graphs: http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...hreadid=104256
Originally posted by TMDZ28
do you think $2500 can get me where i want??
do you think $2500 can get me where i want??
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360-375 SAE sounds way more doable, keep in mind almost all 400+ RWHP folks are running a blower, turbo, nitrous, or a 230+ duration cam, not a low lift 218/228.
To get 400+ RW with a 'warmcam' would be one monsterous set of heads.
The difference between STD and SAE is 8-10º I forget off hand, so it is a difference, most people use SAE for whatever reason.
To get 400+ RW with a 'warmcam' would be one monsterous set of heads.
The difference between STD and SAE is 8-10º I forget off hand, so it is a difference, most people use SAE for whatever reason.
Last edited by Dr.Mudge; Jul 30, 2003 at 01:21 PM.
If you're not concerned about emmissions, then combo motorsports can put together a cam set up for ya. Remember, we A4 guys get the shaft over the M6's. Get a bigger cam(230/236)~500-600 dollars with rockers and all and get your heads ported by lloyd elliot, and with some LT's, a true dual (X PIPE), and a dynotune you'd be around where you want to be. And would be in budget if you could do the work or get someone to do the work for you. But then again, you'd probably want a bigger TB, injectors, beefer tranny(saw HD in sig now!), a stall(didn't read your sig, so sorry if you've got it), some good gaskets, some coated LT's(didn't read sig), and maybe a 12 bolt if the rear goes out. I'm doing very similar to my car. I wanted to spend around ~2500...no can do. Just do mods that will get you ready for the big ones...save money as you go...and then crank the mods out!!
Just my .02
JOHN
Just my .02
JOHN
Well, I will say be very careful using a 200 shot on a stock bottom end. I haven't heard of too many people running that much with any success. Someone will probably chime in on this with more information.
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Originally posted by TMDZ28
WOW....that's a little too much for me. btw how much money did it cost you to build that??
WOW....that's a little too much for me. btw how much money did it cost you to build that??
i have about 5,000 in parts and labor but it wont be done till next spring i bought a 95 lt1 block and heads so i can put my block on the shelf and save it but also my cousin owns the machine shop so i think i am getting a good deal he said if it dont hit low 11's na he will pull it out and redo it for free
400rwhp from heads and a hotcam? I will be happy to hit 350 at the wheels with my CC305 once I get my heads done. And a 200 shot on top of this? You are nuts LOL. Plan to spend way more than $2500 if you're goal is 600rwhp.
Last edited by bigdreamZ; Jul 30, 2003 at 07:19 PM.
If you plan to rebuild the engine yourself than you can build a Lt1 with the Hot Cam and all the extras very easy. That is not including the NO2. I built mine for about $2200 when it was said and done. That was new crank, Forged pistons, metric Lt1 Rings, New timing chain, all bearings, new oil pump, new cam (220/230 at .050 .535 lift at 112 lsa), heads ported and polished intake to match, gaskets, everything in the valve train new, Hooker headers, BBK 58mm TB, Crane Fireball ignition, 8.8mm accel wires, Vortec elbow to TB, new opti.
My dyno #s 302.3 RWHP 5400Rpm 327.7 RWT at 4000 Rpms
I'm running stock program and stock fuel pump and stock injectors
My dyno #s 302.3 RWHP 5400Rpm 327.7 RWT at 4000 Rpms
I'm running stock program and stock fuel pump and stock injectors
Tim those numbers seem low for ported heads and what looks to be a cc305 cam. A friend of mine hit 346rwhp/342rwtq with heads/cc305 cam/shorties. You could probably benefit from some tuning. Check out Brian at PCMforless.com
Edit: Just noticed the slipping clutch in your sig, that could be a problem too LOL
Edit: Just noticed the slipping clutch in your sig, that could be a problem too LOL
since you have a auto I do not think it's possible with the hot cam.
I've had the cam for almost 4 years now and with Stock heads the best I have been able to get was 329rwhp. I did lose about 10rwhp with my Vigilante so maybe 339with stock heads.
A friend of mine with a M6 a decent set of ported LT1 heads and the hot came made right at 375rwhp. I would think that is about the max of the hot cam so with a Auto it's going to be less.
If you want to stay with the hot cam I would think you would be ok to use the stock crank, eagle 4340 Hbeams and the Summit forged rebuild kit. That would be a strong and fairly cheap rebuild. You can get those rods off Ebay any day for $350.
With a 200 shot you would be at say 560rwhp which is a lot. If you make that kind of power you will have MANY more other problems than not having the extra 40hp. Many people have sprayed more on the stock crank but you will be taking a chance using it.
Guys on here have broken cranks similar in strength with a 150 shot but others haven't it's a crap shoot.
My car with a 100 shot from a TNT kit did 430rwhp on the dyno. Thats good for solid mid 11's depending on your elevation.
You will need a trans, a rear end, tires and more.
I have no idea how good that Summit kit is or how it will hold up to a 200 shot.
I've had the cam for almost 4 years now and with Stock heads the best I have been able to get was 329rwhp. I did lose about 10rwhp with my Vigilante so maybe 339with stock heads.
A friend of mine with a M6 a decent set of ported LT1 heads and the hot came made right at 375rwhp. I would think that is about the max of the hot cam so with a Auto it's going to be less.
If you want to stay with the hot cam I would think you would be ok to use the stock crank, eagle 4340 Hbeams and the Summit forged rebuild kit. That would be a strong and fairly cheap rebuild. You can get those rods off Ebay any day for $350.
With a 200 shot you would be at say 560rwhp which is a lot. If you make that kind of power you will have MANY more other problems than not having the extra 40hp. Many people have sprayed more on the stock crank but you will be taking a chance using it.
Guys on here have broken cranks similar in strength with a 150 shot but others haven't it's a crap shoot.
My car with a 100 shot from a TNT kit did 430rwhp on the dyno. Thats good for solid mid 11's depending on your elevation.
You will need a trans, a rear end, tires and more.
I have no idea how good that Summit kit is or how it will hold up to a 200 shot.


