oh yeah i forgot. Sorry about that Bret. It's been a while since i've talked to him about my cam.

 

just so everyone knows, I hear there is new and old comp r's, and I must say I bought these comp r's about 2 years ago, and this is the 2nd one to fail and I never claimed to be a master mechanic, but I can adjust them at 1/16-1/8 preload pretty damn good. Maybe the problem was that I learned on comp r's? But I definitly would say that all those people who think perfect valve lash is gonna make these work, I can't wait till you get the noise in your motor like I did

thanks again bret for the advice, hope these gmpp lifters are perfect for my app.

 

if by all those people you mean ME...well ive already been using them 4k miles, and yes they made valve noise, but i dont care, they worked great

 

I see you bought into comp`s bullcrap excuse. I guess there are a few who overlashed them. But the newer design comp r`s fail regardless. I suppose your going to tell me mine set a zero lash is too much preload? Give me a break. I`ve had mine in the car over a year. Its just been pulled apart and 5 were missing the retainers alltogether and the other 11 were getting cracks. When you start getting the random misfire code, it ain`t the opti this time buddy. take a look at those hype r`s....

 

What's the differences between the Morel's and OEM stuff, or rather, what makes the Morel lifters so good?? Just looking for some insight as I'm not familiar with them but WILL NOT be using Comp R's again.

 

http://www.richards-enterprises.net/...mpR-morela.JPG
http://www.richards-enterprises.net/...pR-morel2a.JPG

Pictures showing the different lifters....

Left to Right, Stock, New Comp R, Morel

Morels have the tightest tolerances and they are also the best made, there is a lot of attention to detail in these things as well.

Bret

 

Are there any block mods that have to be done to run the Morel's, and is the lifter valley spider retainer still needed with those???

How much are we talking for a set of these?

 

dunno what to tell ya, other than i had mine in for over 4k miles over the course of about a year as well turning 7k rpm reguluarly without failure...no cracks or wierd discoloration of the clips like the ones in that pic...always set at zero lash, granted i saw no real advatage over the oem lifters, which i also turned 7k with, but i dont see what the problem with these are as all mine are in great shape

 

Very strange, so you`ve actually had them out since you put them in? I turn 64k rpm and have about 6k miles on them.

I would say 1 of three things occured.
1. you recieved a set of the previous design comp r`s.
2. comp actually has fixed the problem and you have one of the first fixed sets
3.They sold you regular lifters in a comp r box(Lol...)


You sure you don`t work for Comp or are in some way sponsored by them? There are a awful lot of knowledgeable people that have put these in w/ failures. I understand the noobs overtightening them. But mine were set at zero. I guess you just looked out somehow.

 

haha, ive got them sitting in oil since i tore my old motor down in february, they are definatly the new design, and none of them show any undue stress of the clips. Maybe your right and comp has fixed the problem and i got a good set, either way, ive got them out, and all look great, so i dont have any problems reusing them...if they fail, they fail, and ill replace them, untill then, ill keep the $150 in my pocket

 

Any reply for that?

 

Nope yank the spyder just like you do on solid rollers..... They ain't cheap most places sell them for $500 a set. That's most places.

Bret

 

.030 or 2/3rds of a turn

I'm going to do some dyno testing to find the best power with these things.

Bret

 

then let us know please Bret

 

I went with Crane OEM replacement lifters after my comp Rs blew up, i have a set of Cranes with about 100 miles on them for $150 if you want some.