LT1 Based Engine Tech 1993-1997 LT1/LT4 Engine Related

Keep Ram Air or Not???????

Old Feb 21, 2003 | 01:45 AM
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Keep Ram Air or Not???????

I've got a 96 SS with the ram air intake.
I've been told that CAI will give the same performance if not more????????

Is this true???
Has anybody ever dynoed this??
Old Feb 21, 2003 | 06:24 AM
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With an SS the less you do to it the more it will be worth in the end. I would never buy an SS that did not havethe ram air working...

I would stay as is, status quo
Old Feb 21, 2003 | 07:20 AM
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Old Feb 21, 2003 | 08:42 AM
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i am a proud owner af a 97 ss and would never change my ram air intake i just think its the coolest thing slp ever did on my car i understand your the need for more power but for me i think the $ spent on a cai could go to other mods.


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Old Feb 21, 2003 | 09:04 AM
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You get more hp from a CAI becuase the CAI is sucking in air, while stationary or moving. On a Ram Air setup you need to force the air into the engine to gain hp, therefore performance is near identical in the 1/4 mile, but hp numbers will differ. I would leave it alone. IMO the ram air on the TA's are the real ram air, due to the direct flow (straight line) into the intake unline the SS's which curl around to the intake. Its like the same affect as having the least amount of bends in your exhaust compared to straight pipes, the least amount curves equals more flow/hp.

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Old Feb 21, 2003 | 09:23 AM
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I've seen that before.

Its just an advertisement for you to buy their product.

I've seen dyno tests between a stock SS and one with the GM F-1 (SLP) CAI.

The CAI made more power and torque.

Reason being, the SS intake soaks up heat from the intake manifold because it sits on top.
Old Feb 21, 2003 | 09:59 AM
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Get rid of that POS. But send it to me and I will dispose of it for you.
Old Feb 21, 2003 | 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by former86camaro
With an SS the less you do to it the more it will be worth in the end. I would never buy an SS that did not havethe ram air working...

I would stay as is, status quo
You ever hear of this thing called a box, you know you store stuff in it??? It's called remove it if he wishes, put it in a box and leave it there.. it can always be re-installed later if he wants to go back to a "stock" setup.

A CAI WILL outperform the stock SS RA setup. Main reasons are due to losses from the bends in the piping and heat soak from sitting ontop of the intake.
Old Feb 21, 2003 | 10:52 AM
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But seriously folks. You are going to hear many say that the CAI, apparently any CAI, will out perform the scam air, but you rarely, if ever see any numbers.

The CAI (Cold Air Intake) is a misnomer. The air is not "cold". It is just an induction system like the Scam Air.

Take your air box and get some heat shield material and use Super Adhesive and glue the material to the bottom of the box. And put some on the plenum where you can.

This should reduce some of the heat sink from the intake.

Throw on a K&N filter and call it good.JMHO
Old Feb 21, 2003 | 10:53 AM
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For the last time-
if you have ram air, keep it. its basically a CAI on top of your hood.

If you dont have ram air, get a CAI

1hp either way. who cares for the cost.

Originally posted by BUBBA
But seriously folks. You are going to hear many say that the CAI, apparently any CAI, will out perform the scam air, but you rarely, if ever see any numbers.

The CAI (Cold Air Intake) is a misnomer. The air is not "cold". It is just an induction system like the Scam Air.

Take your air box and get some heat shield material and use Super Adhesive and glue the material to the bottom of the box. And put some on the plenum where you can.

This should reduce some of the heat sink from the intake.

Throw on a K&N filter and call it good.JMHO
Actually the stock intake box was designed to be restrictive.

hes right though
your not ramming air anywhere but up you if you think ram air really works.

read a book on fluids
air will natuarlly want to go around it.
also, your only getting so much uncompressed air into the TB and thats that...

Last edited by treyZ28; Feb 21, 2003 at 10:56 AM.
Old Feb 21, 2003 | 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by teke184
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98+ SS Raim air is totaly different than the 96-97

Keep your current SS setup, It's not worth the cost to change it. +/- the HP
Old Feb 21, 2003 | 07:56 PM
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Thanx for the input guys.
Even if I was going to get a CAI I would keep the stock setup.
I do plan on keeping the car for as long as I can and later on down the road I'll want to put it all back to stock.

Next time my F-body club has a dyno day I'll strap on a CAI and compare dyno numbers.

I was just curious to see if anybody has dyno results of this comparison
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