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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ABA383
I guess that I'm hoping to get what most of us want. A bigger cam that will be docile enough to drive across the country, yet be able to run mid/low 11s at the track. I'm hoping that Joe can help me achieve that goal. The LPE 211/219 cam has been great, but falls a little flat on top end. I even thought about the 219/219 LPE cam, but was told that its only recommended for use with the Super ram (LPE has no data on the 219 with the stock intake), which is big $$$. the 211/219 is crazy nuts out of the hole--uncontrolable with BFG DRs. I was hoping to lose a little bottom end and pick up tons of mid range and top end, but I want to keep the 2.00 / 1.56 valves. I'm hopin that Joe and Eric can help me..

Anyone else have any comments on Joe's stuff?...
--Alan
You’re an obvious fan of Lingenfelter and frankly I am also, but the Super Ram fell out of favor quite a while ago. I’m also hoping your talking LT technology and not TPI as this is a LT technology board and the posts are all focused on the reverse cooling heads and cam stuff.

The 211/219 LPE cam and a set of MTI heads was my first mod to my SS. 211/219’s cams are terrific daily drivers in a stock block but way too small for a stroker motor. 383 cubic inches needs more duration to take advantage of the additional air movement capability even though I must confess, still have a sweat spot in my heart for 211/219’s. Terrific performers for their spec’s. Also to get your dynamic compression right, you should have a little more duration.

12-13 cams, 3 blocks, 4 sets of heads and a CE C4 LT4 later, I can tell ya a 219/219 is like still having training wheels compared to the newer cam designs. Same for the head porting technology. I doubt your LPE heads flow much over 250 while 270 is the current standard even for economy type porting jobs.

Based upon your comment regarding the 219/219, I hope you understand you’re looking at a considerable gain but the idle will sound a little like the sound bite. You won’t loose any of the bottom end but will pick up considerably on the top end. In fact, you just might pick up on the bottom end.

All of Joe’s cams are on a 110 and they do make power, not doubt; but watch what ya ask for as your bumping up quite a bit and your going to need to have the combo tuned properly. With tuning you shouldn’t notice much difference in drivability at all in a 383 if you go with one of his XXX XXX @ XXX XXX lift.

(Get hold of Joe or Lloyd for your exact needs as these are custom design cams and it’s not good manners to tell exact specifications)

You can also have Bret Bauer design a cam for your exact needs.

In terms of heads….. you can’t go wrong with either Phil at Advanced Inductions or Lloyd Elliott. Both produce a very good product and I’m sure Eric is also very good if he’s teamed up with JO.

Choices, choices choices…………Problem is you can’t loose if you keep with the people whom have supported the board. There are reasons as to why people like them.
Old Jan 23, 2005 | 09:14 AM
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Re: Joe Overton customers, inside please....

Not trying to be smart, but of course I'm talking about LT stuff, as my sig suggests, I've been racing/driving one for 10 years...

You're right, I'm a huge fan of John and his stuff. He hand built my 383 and it performed flawlessly for 10 years without a hiccup. 11.70s for 10 years is pretty awesome considering the 25 mpg highway and virtually no maintenance. Now, the motor is showing its age with oil leaks, valve train noise (no doubt because of weakened 10 year old springs) even though it still went 11.90s at 117 this past November, and I was looking to upgrade now anyway to keep up with the LS1 crowd as best that I can. Unfortunately, LPE has not R&D'd anymore LT1 stuff other than the 211 and the 219 cams. LPE did just do a 94 383 Corvette with the 219 and Super ram and got 415 rwhp and 435 rwtq!!You're right, though, that the 219 is still too small which is why my local shop in Baltimore suggested Joe and Eric to do a cam and freshen the heads. Based on my wants/needs Joe's thinking about a 220ish/230ish 560ish/570ish "nasty Little cam" with Eric working with Joe on the head freshening.

The car will definitely be tuned, probably by Joe himself, but it will be tuned properly on a dyno. Joe currently has some programs that would get me in the ball park and then could be tweaked on the dyno. I don't mind the lope of a 110, but I do want to be able to continue to drive the car 180 miles to the beach....1000 miles to Florida, etc...We'll see what we come up with...I'm just hoping that Joe can deliver what he's suggesting...11.40s or better would just be terrific...Thanks for the post, Denny...

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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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Re: Joe Overton customers, inside please....

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Not trying to be smart, but of course I'm talking about LT stuff, as my sig suggests, I've been racing/driving one for 10 years...
--Alan

Sorry about that, as maybe I should look at sig's. The Super Ram threw me off as you just don't hear about them anymore.
Old Jan 23, 2005 | 10:38 AM
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No problem...I hadn't considered the Super ram for the LT1 until LPE suggested it. They claim 50plus lb/ft of torque at the higher rpms over my stock/LPE ported intake, BUT it's VERY expensive to have them port/install it. Actually all of their prices seem to have gone up considerably over the past few years, which is why I was looking into the Joe O. stuff....Anyway, thanks again for your post....

--Alan
Old Jan 23, 2005 | 11:14 AM
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does anyone have the contact info for joe o?
Old Jan 23, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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I may do the electric wp while I'm there.
Do yourself a favor and don't do that. I have a Meziere pump that is a couple of years old (I've been told the older ones are better than the new ones) and it has caused me a lot of problems/headaches. The included wiring was not up to the task, a bad connection developed in the plug that came with it causing the pump to not come on at all one day. The car got up to about 250* rather quickly so I shut it down and pulled over. A minute or two later I turned the key on to get a temperature reading and this time the water pump decided to come on. It shot cool water from the radiator into the almost overheated block which warped my heads and eventually led to the cracked block I'm dealing with now

The problem is when an electric pump fails it can just stop working at all, usually when the stock one fails it will leak but still pump.
Old Jan 23, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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Re: Joe Overton customers, inside please....

Originally Posted by speedyjr
does anyone have the contact info for joe o?
Here you go .

http://hometown.aol.com/one94ta2try/...age/index.html

I'm another satisfied customer too. . I just have to do a little more tuning and try a set of 26' inch ET Streets and I'm sure I'll be posting some new best ET's this coming March. The 28's are killing my first gear in my A3 .

Give him a call and I'm sure he will help you out with anything you want to do. Good luck
Old Jan 23, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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Re: Joe Overton customers, inside please....

Fast Z....You're right...I thought about that post after I added the electric wp stuff...My stock pump has been trouble free for 10 years...I'll just replace it with another while I'm there...I'll leave some hp on the table for some piece of mind...

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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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Awesome cam! Crazy specs. I got the big one. The thing is crazy to tune. Still haven't got it. Go figure. I was one of the last ones to get one directly from him. Good luck with your quest.

Benji
Old Jan 23, 2005 | 04:29 PM
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Re: Joe Overton customers, inside please....

I am going to see Joe this sat. coming up. I have a joe cam and he is going to hook me up with the tuning. Eric hooked me up on the head work and helped me build the new fully built 355. I can't wait to fire it up this week.

Mark
Old Jan 23, 2005 | 06:31 PM
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i'm happy with my JOLT-2 cam
Mr. Overton is nice fella
if i had too do it over again, i would have had his head porter do my heads (solely on price) but i am very pleased with Phil's work @ AI

collecting parts right now in preperation for this upcoming race season. new bests for me will be on the way. i have no doubts about that!
Old Jan 24, 2005 | 07:12 AM
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Re: Joe Overton customers, inside please....

For Joe O. and E.B.. They are a awesome combo.. ANd make some stupid power...
Old Jan 24, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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For Joe O. and E.B.. They are a awesome combo.. ANd make some stupid power...
Indeed they are and indeed they do!

Good luck with your new setup Mark I have no doubt you will be very happy with it.
Old Jan 24, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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Re: Joe Overton customers, inside please....

Thanks everybody...I just talked to him for an hour on the phone...Seems like a knowledgable guy, very personable, seems like he'll be fun to work with...He and I are on the same page about not going to wild on the cam...but make some serious power. Eric is going to flow my LPE heads and see if he can find more flow, then Joe will match the cam the heads and to the rest of my combination...probably 224/226 .560ish/.570 (or something similar) which he said would be great for street/strip and very easy to tune....also switching to 3.73 gears...

Looking for 11.40s or better at 120 ...While still maintaining good street manners....we'll see what the Spring brings....

Again, thanks all for the replies...

--Alan
Old Jan 24, 2005 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 97 WS6 T/A Conv
Indeed they are and indeed they do!

Good luck with your new setup Mark I have no doubt you will be very happy with it.

Heck yer Gary, I don't think I will be able to sleep the night before. lol



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