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Old Feb 26, 2003 | 12:44 PM
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I need Opinions quick!! 224/230

Hey guyz, i'm doing a LT1/T56 swap into my IROC, i was planning on the HOTCam however now with this cmotorsports.com deal i'm thinking a little bigger. I will have stock heads still this summer..

Q: Will i make anymore power with any of the cams listed?
Q: Any Advice Opinions for me?
Q: Should i stick with the hotcam or go 224/230?

daily driver, emissions is no concern to me!!

Thanx, Mike
Old Feb 26, 2003 | 12:49 PM
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go with the 230/236. but lok at there site becuase there are 3 different ones. that is only if you are going to port your heads latter 224/230 if not.
Old Feb 26, 2003 | 12:51 PM
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224/230 with the kit.

Done.
Old Feb 26, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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OK SWEET!!
Any other opinions?

2 votes for 224/230 Cam.. I do plan on doing something with the heads next winter.

Q: How will having a bigger cam like the 230/236 affect me while the heads are NOT ported? Will i actually be slower with the bigger cam vs. the 224/230 or HotCam?

Thanks again guyz!!

Mike
Old Feb 26, 2003 | 01:26 PM
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Well you definetly won't be slower but you definetly will eat more gas, if you are doing heads later on down the road I would go 230/236, I"m putting this cam into my buddie's car on thursday(tommorow) & he has stock heads/mac headers & we're using stock rockers but new lifters cuz its an agressive cam
Old Feb 26, 2003 | 01:35 PM
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Read this post, lots of info here.

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...threadid=79425
Old Feb 26, 2003 | 01:42 PM
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my 224/230 is very streetable and puts out more power than the tires can handle.
Old Feb 26, 2003 | 02:26 PM
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Ok so the HotCam is definatley out of the question now!!

Hmm.. 224/230 or 230/236.. This is a rough decision, i like the thought of the 230/236, those big numbers turn me on! LOL and i know next winter i will be buying AFR LT4 195cc heads and LT4 Intake as well.. This car is a daily driver and i do ALOT of cruising around town with other Fbody's..

Any idea how the 230/236 will act with the stock heads? If it is not going to like the stock heads and i will have problems than i'd rather go with the 224/230, but if i will see a bit more power with the 230/236 w/ stock heads and have no issues at all than i will buy it..

Opinions Guyz?? Thanx again!! Mike
Old Feb 26, 2003 | 02:43 PM
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I really cant help you much with the technical part of this question but i can relate because i am in the same situation. I am on my 3rd LT1 fbody and i no longer do the " im getting this next year" stuff. I Would go for the 224/230 112 LSA with a good set of 1.6rrs and springs. I'll tell you why, because you never know what is going to happen and you know the 224/230 will pull all day long and be totally sufficient for a stock head car. I want 400 HP now too, but i am into doing it right, because i have messed up in the past, and i just cannot afford the LT4 heads i want! So my suggestion is to get what you can afford now, or wait to get the cam until you have the heads as well. Also, this is totally an opinion, but i believe you lose a lot of the car with a Big Cam. Sure you get the power, but i love to drive my Fbody, i mean to the movies, to the grocerie store and to work each day. Some do that too with Big Cams, but i love small cams! and with Good tuning, you will have great gains!.
Old Feb 26, 2003 | 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by scoobie30th
I really cant help you much with the technical part of this question but i can relate because i am in the same situation. I am on my 3rd LT1 fbody and i no longer do the " im getting this next year" stuff. I Would go for the 224/230 112 LSA with a good set of 1.6rrs and springs. I'll tell you why, because you never know what is going to happen and you know the 224/230 will pull all day long and be totally sufficient for a stock head car. I want 400 HP now too, but i am into doing it right, because i have messed up in the past, and i just cannot afford the LT4 heads i want! So my suggestion is to get what you can afford now, or wait to get the cam until you have the heads as well. Also, this is totally an opinion, but i believe you lose a lot of the car with a Big Cam. Sure you get the power, but i love to drive my Fbody, i mean to the movies, to the grocerie store and to work each day. Some do that too with Big Cams, but i love small cams! and with Good tuning, you will have great gains!.

i agree with you but you dont have to have lt4 heads to make 400 hp. bu tlike you said thats what you want.

i just put a 230/236 in a buddys car and i runs consideering its on stock tunning. the only thing he did do. was put bigger valves in but i don think it helped that much if at all. and if he ever ported those heads that cam will make great power mid and high rpms with good heads. the key to this game is a good set of heads and not just peak flow numbers either.

i personally after seeing the way his car runs with the stock heads i dont think its that bad. now could the cam be better. yes but it needs a good set of heads to really make it shine, and the xe grinds make a good amount of torqe down low cosidering the big durations.

if you are sure you will be getting heads than 230/236 but if not go 224/230 and you will be happy either way
Old Feb 26, 2003 | 02:55 PM
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The 224/230 and 230/236 will behave very differently than each other. The 230/236 will make a bit more peak power then the 224/230, even with stock heads. What kind of power are you looking for though? The 224/230 is very fun to drive on the street as it comes on to the cam very rapidly, it has a kick in the pants that just feels great. The 230/236 doesn't *feel* as fast but should give you slightly higher traps when you wind it out. Normally I would say stick with the 224/230 but with an M6 you have more flexibility.

Keep in mind that once you've done one cam swap it's easy to change cams in the future. When I make changes and go with a different cam all I need to do is buy a new one and sell the old one... all the supporting mods are already in place. In fact, Drop Top Steve is running one of my "old" cams Buy the cam that you want right now.
Old Feb 26, 2003 | 02:58 PM
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Just curious buttercup, it sounds like youve sold more than just one cam, how much do you normally sell them for?
Old Feb 26, 2003 | 03:02 PM
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there are other choices too. like for instance i am thinking of just getting a custom XE 230/230. all the lobes will be the same as the intake on the XE 230/236 or the exhaust on the XE 224/230 so you kinda get a little of both. my goal is a lot of torque and hopefully getting a cam a some what tamer than the XE 230/236 but more aggresive than the XE 224/230. i will have stock heads too.
Old Feb 26, 2003 | 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by jonaddis84
Just curious buttercup, it sounds like youve sold more than just one cam, how much do you normally sell them for?
$140 shipped is plenty fair. I'm usually pretty flexible on pricing though, I'm really not in it for the money I'm also not usually in a rush, I'll post it here and/or take the parts to a swap meet, but I hate to see good parts not being used.
Old Feb 26, 2003 | 03:16 PM
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Ok, U guyz are helping me out ALOT here, i really appreciate it.. My opinions have now changed.. I agree with the idea that i dont have heads right now so i shouldn't set up the car for soemthing i dont have I think the 224/230 is the way i should go.. I have a feeling i might be playing with alittle Nitrous this summer or next, the Nitrous will like the exhaust to be a bit greater and if i dont do Nitrous at all the Cam will work awesome reguardless.. I got an email from my buddy Jason Short, he says 224/230, i am agreeing with him..

Any other opinions are greatly welcomed, What kind of RWHP and Trap speeds would u guyz *estimate*?



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