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Old Aug 7, 2003 | 04:18 PM
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How to get into 12's

Hey guys, I need to know how to get into the mid-high 12's with a 94 z28 a4. The only thing is I only want bolt-ons. I will do gears too. I would get a torque converter, but how do you install them? Also, I will use n2o, but not a major shot, probably 75 at most. Also for gears, I have an auto (not sure of current ratio) but if I get 3.73's will I need to get some type of 3" holder or do they come with gears? Any suggestions help. Thanks and God Bless
Old Aug 7, 2003 | 04:57 PM
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Well, if you'd like to use my car as a recipe, here's what got me into the 12's...


cold air / catback
Hooker LT's
2800 stall Vigi converter
Nitto's on back, skinnies on the front
PCMforless bolt on tune

Here's a bunch of info on mod installs, including pics/writeup on converter install..

http://zmydust.com/tech.html

Almost forgot to mention.. some suspension work helps..

I have BMR LCA's and a Hotchkis panhard rod

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Old Aug 7, 2003 | 05:11 PM
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After reading the install, I decided I'm not gunna mess with a torque converter until I build my 383. I was wondering if this combo would get me in the 12's, and if so, about where?

Hooker LT Headers
Catback Exhaust
Lingenfelter CAI
B+M Shift Plus Kit
LT4 Hot Cam
3.73 Gears
75 Shot n2o
Drag Radials

I'm not to keen on tuning, considering I"m to computer illiterate to figure it out. Where could I take it to get it done, a dyno place? Any other suggestions? Thanks and God Bless
Old Aug 7, 2003 | 05:48 PM
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From what I understand Bryan at pcmforless pretty much has the hotcam tune downpat, and will only cost you $75 or so on an OBD1 car.. pcmforless.com

The converter is well worth it IMO.. especially with a cam. I cut .4 off my times with one.

But that combo should get you into the low 12's with traction imo... the converter is the missing key there
Old Aug 7, 2003 | 06:10 PM
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I agree do the converter. Besides headers it was my best mod. And a little weight reduction is always good.
Old Aug 7, 2003 | 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by No4nRice
After reading the install, I decided I'm not gunna mess with a torque converter until I build my 383. I was wondering if this combo would get me in the 12's, and if so, about where?

Hooker LT Headers
Catback Exhaust
Lingenfelter CAI
B+M Shift Plus Kit
LT4 Hot Cam
3.73 Gears
75 Shot n2o
Drag Radials

I'm not to keen on tuning, considering I"m to computer illiterate to figure it out. Where could I take it to get it done, a dyno place? Any other suggestions? Thanks and God Bless
You would easily be in the 12's with those mods. I would say mid 12's
Old Aug 7, 2003 | 10:19 PM
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To do 12's on ll motor, Do a full exhaust. Headers back. Cold air and rear gears, that should get you there with a good 60ft to help you
Old Aug 7, 2003 | 10:45 PM
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I am in the 12s...it isnt that easy..but I also have a M6...U will need a torque converter no doubt...but if you do all motor u will need a good intake, headers with full exhaust, gears, drag radials, and a cam wouldnt hurt....Now I ran a 12.7 @115 with all that stuff...I have a ram air intake, hooker longtubes, 3 inch y pipe no cats, hooker cat back, 4.10 gears, 315 nittos, cc306, comp r lifters, cc roler rockers and springs...I know I can get lower but traction is a issue...U might not even need a full exhaust just get a cut out like me and open it whenever.

matt
Old Aug 7, 2003 | 10:47 PM
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PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSST!

i know how to get you into the low 12s high 11s

N2O!!
Old Aug 7, 2003 | 11:10 PM
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he said he was already thinking of using N2O
Old Aug 7, 2003 | 11:37 PM
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i have a B&M shiftplus i can sell you pretty cheap, email me.
Old Aug 8, 2003 | 05:18 AM
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those mods should easily get you 12's. If you want a good dyno tune, check out Carolina Auto Masters and ask for Jeff Creech. He's a prominent member of the local Carolina F-body club.

http://www.carolinaautomasters.com/

come check us out!

http://www.carolinafbodyclub.com/
Old Aug 8, 2003 | 12:51 PM
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How do you get in the 12's? Take your car to Louisiana or Houston, Texas in the dead of winter(for everyone else) while the DA is -2500 and run it down the track. Seems to work for everyone else.
Old Aug 8, 2003 | 01:54 PM
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bolt ons and sticky tires
Old Aug 8, 2003 | 02:15 PM
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The convertor install really isn`t that bad. Just make sure you don`t snap the bolts off on the flex plate to the convertor. I did and I thought about setting the car on fire and rolling it down a hill.



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