How fun an engine is an LT1?
#17
Re: How fun an engine is an LT1?
You really can't go wrong with either engine. LT1s are by no means slow, the LS1 just edges them out in the top end which only makes sense because they are a newer engine. The opti spark is way over-hyped and is not as failure prone and everyone makes them sound. I chose the LT1 because i liked the looks more and i got my 30th ann. for around $9500 with 29,000 miles on it which was too good of a deal to pass up. Both engines can be built to be fast. I'm not sure if my car with its mods could edge out an LS1 or not but with the headers and exhaust and stuff ive probably spent about $11,000 total on the car and i think it would be hard to find a LS1 f body with 29,000 miles for 11 grand. LT1s sound great, and i think they are cheaper to insure based on your age.
There really is no bad choice, just go with what you want, LT1 or LS1 and you wont be dissapointed
And to answer your question- LT1s and f bodys in general are very fun to drive
There really is no bad choice, just go with what you want, LT1 or LS1 and you wont be dissapointed
And to answer your question- LT1s and f bodys in general are very fun to drive
#19
Re: How fun an engine is an LT1?
Originally Posted by GnarlyZ28
You really can't go wrong with either engine. LT1s are by no means slow, the LS1 just edges them out in the top end which only makes sense because they are a newer engine. The opti spark is way over-hyped and is not as failure prone and everyone makes them sound. I chose the LT1 because i liked the looks more and i got my 30th ann. for around $9500 with 29,000 miles on it which was too good of a deal to pass up. Both engines can be built to be fast. I'm not sure if my car with its mods could edge out an LS1 or not but with the headers and exhaust and stuff ive probably spent about $11,000 total on the car and i think it would be hard to find a LS1 f body with 29,000 miles for 11 grand. LT1s sound great, and i think they are cheaper to insure based on your age.
There really is no bad choice, just go with what you want, LT1 or LS1 and you wont be dissapointed
And to answer your question- LT1s and f bodys in general are very fun to drive
There really is no bad choice, just go with what you want, LT1 or LS1 and you wont be dissapointed
And to answer your question- LT1s and f bodys in general are very fun to drive
WEll.. That defninetly helped sway memore Lt1..
Top end isn't my concern. I will probably hit 100 once or twice, maybe.. I'm more the off-the line fun kinda person.. Maybe because I'm scared of being ticketed?
Hey, call me whatever, top end isn't a huge deal to me..
Off the line, the Lt1 more or less keeps up? At what speed does it trail, 35 or so?
I found a nice car in Lt1 form now.. Dang good price, enough that I could probably put headers or something on the car as well. I imagine with headers and the flowmaster already on the car, I'd be nearly LS1 territory, right?
nd, considering if I bought the LS1, I couldn't afford the bigger mods, it owuld stay more stock, it might be a good idea..
I dunno.. I guess they are both corvette engines, right?
Thanks for all the input guys, certainly eases my LT1 concerns.
#20
Re: How fun an engine is an LT1?
Even if you keep them mostly stock, a bolton LS1 will outdyno a bolton+cammed LT1. Just something to think about, you could have just boltons and make more power than an lt1 with boltons+ a cam, and not lose any driveability, and not have to deal with cam surge. Then if you do boltons+cam on an LS1 you will outdyno most heads/cam LT1's.
#21
Re: How fun an engine is an LT1?
Originally Posted by Z28Roxy
Top end doesn't refer to MPH in this case - it refers to the top part of every gear (so LS1s have a bigger advantage at like 5500 RPM as opposed to 2500 RPM).
Overall, just buy what you want as far as money, styling, preference, etc goes. Both are very good platforms to build off of and both come with pretty good power "out of the box". If your one and only goal is to go fast for the least amount of money, don't buy either.
Overall, just buy what you want as far as money, styling, preference, etc goes. Both are very good platforms to build off of and both come with pretty good power "out of the box". If your one and only goal is to go fast for the least amount of money, don't buy either.
And no, it's not a fast for chep thing. I love the f-body platform, and this will be my second, (first 4th gen.. )
BTW.. my 3rd gen for sale herE: http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/ca...just-make.html
I know it's a shameless plug, but I don't care....
At least I know the LT1 is a torquey engine off the line, that's always fun.. They do get slightly less gas mielasge though, right? I would look at epa ratings, but come on, the cars are almost 10 years old, I don't know how well they kept at those ratings..
Again, thanks for all the help!
#25
Re: How fun an engine is an LT1?
Any camaro with a 6 speed will be fun! Get what you can afford and spend the rest on upgrading...for instance the LS1 cars have better brakes then the LT1 however if you save money on the LT1 you can get an aftermarket $1,500 brake setup that is better then a LS1 car has stock. Then spend the other $3,000 on a supercharger and full exhaust you will have a car that out brakes and out accelerates a stock LS1
IMO It'll be at least another 5 to 10 years before it isn't worth upgrading an LT1.
IMO It'll be at least another 5 to 10 years before it isn't worth upgrading an LT1.
#26
Re: How fun an engine is an LT1?
Originally Posted by streetwarrior96
There is nothing cheap about fixing up an LT1
for comparison reasons,
fully forged 383 setup, forged pistons, forged rods...COMPLETE KIT: less than 2k
fully forged 383 CRANK ONLY for ls1: 3k
ported lt1 thorttle body, taken to the max: 175 bucks
ported ls1 thorttle body: 300 bucks
upgraded lt1 ignition coil: 65 bucks...once
upgraded ls1 ignition coils: 75 bucks...eight times
i think i've spoken loud enough on that one.
on the other hand though, suspension is the same, shocks, springs, control arms (front and rear), PHR, subframes, driveshafts, rear ends...all cost the same since they are the same.
#27
Re: How fun an engine is an LT1?
If you really think the performance difference isn't worth the extra money, the LT1 should be fine. It makes good low end torque and it'll ruin a set of tires before you know it.
I chose my '97 because I like the front end better than the LS1's, and '97's have the LS1 car's interior, which I like better.
But if you think you're going to be a speed freak, go LS1. The law of diminishing returns will prevail. Speed costs money, and you always get used to how fast your car is.
I chose my '97 because I like the front end better than the LS1's, and '97's have the LS1 car's interior, which I like better.
But if you think you're going to be a speed freak, go LS1. The law of diminishing returns will prevail. Speed costs money, and you always get used to how fast your car is.
#28
Re: How fun an engine is an LT1?
I would go for the LT1 car. The savings from buying the LT1 car will leave u with enough cash to fix the car up the way u want it. The Lt1 does feel more torque down low which is always fun. U could even look at getting the LT4 hotcam kit for about $400 and you'll be right up there with the LS1's and you'll still have money left over for gears, tires or anything else u feel like upgrading on the car. Dont get me wrong, LS1's are great cars and if I would have had the money for an LS1 car 3 years ago when I got my LT1 I might have gotten one. But I am glad I ended up with the LT1 car. I only have a few $k spent on mods for my car and I have never been beaten by an LS1 car after I put on the mods that I have. Good luck with whatever U decide. Oh, also with the mods I have now I still manage about 14mpg city and about 20mpg's on the highway.
#29
Re: How fun an engine is an LT1?
Originally Posted by Severous01
for comparison reasons,
fully forged 383 setup, forged pistons, forged rods...COMPLETE KIT: less than 2k
fully forged 383 CRANK ONLY for ls1: 3k
fully forged 383 setup, forged pistons, forged rods...COMPLETE KIT: less than 2k
fully forged 383 CRANK ONLY for ls1: 3k
LT1
121-CAJ11A-RM Callies RaceMaster Crankshaft, SBC 3.750" stroke/2.100" Pin Size/350 Mains/1pc Rear Main $1359.00 Buy Wish
121-CAM11A-RM Callies RaceMaster Crankshaft, SBC 3.875" stroke/2.100" Pin Size/350 Mains/1pc Rear Main $1359.00 Buy Wish
LS1
121-APO31V-RM Callies Racemaster Crankshaft, LS1/LS6 4.00" stroke/2.100" Pin Size $1599.99
Originally Posted by Severous01
ported lt1 thorttle body, taken to the max: 175 bucks
ported ls1 thorttle body: 300 bucks
Originally Posted by Severous01
upgraded lt1 ignition coil: 65 bucks...once
upgraded ls1 ignition coils: 75 bucks...eight times
upgraded ls1 ignition coils: 75 bucks...eight times
Originally Posted by Severous01
i think i've spoken loud enough on that one.
on the other hand though, suspension is the same, shocks, springs, control arms (front and rear), PHR, subframes, driveshafts, rear ends...all cost the same since they are the same.
on the other hand though, suspension is the same, shocks, springs, control arms (front and rear), PHR, subframes, driveshafts, rear ends...all cost the same since they are the same.
If you have anyomre BS you feel like saying, go ahead and post it. Or keep living in denial that the LS1 is a superior platform.