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Old Oct 20, 2003 | 08:38 AM
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Question Highway driving with a 396 Stroker

I'm debating whether to tow or drive a 94Z 396 stroker with TH400 and 4.10 rear from Detroit to Stanton, MI for a race on Saturday (~160 miles one way). Since the TH400 doesn't have an overdrive, what's a reasonable rpm limit for cruising long distances, 3k? 3.5k? less? or am I insane for even thinking about driving it there?



Old Oct 20, 2003 | 08:46 AM
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With 4.10's and a "street" tire (25.7" diameter) you are going to be turning 3,760rpm at 70mph. Even more with a non-locking converter. I run the TH400, 4.10's and a Gear Vendor, and I tow to the track, which is 6 miles from my house.

On the other hand, many years ago, the typical street car was running those kind of RPM's on the street, because none of the trannies had O/D back then, and everybody who raced ran 4.11's or 4.56's. I don't remember anyone towing their car to the track in the 60's.
Old Oct 20, 2003 | 09:37 AM
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I say tow, because Stanton always has awesome traction, especially at all the "M" events, so the chances of breakage are always there, especially with a high horsepower application and a stock rear end. (I'm assuming you've got those 4.10s in a stock 10 bolt?)
Old Oct 20, 2003 | 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by Injuneer
With 4.10's and a "street" tire (25.7" diameter) you are going to be turning 3,760rpm at 70mph. Even more with a non-locking converter. I run the TH400, 4.10's and a Gear Vendor, and I tow to the track, which is 6 miles from my house.

On the other hand, many years ago, the typical street car was running those kind of RPM's on the street, because none of the trannies had O/D back then, and everybody who raced ran 4.11's or 4.56's. I don't remember anyone towing their car to the track in the 60's.
One of the biggest surprises that I had getting back into drag racing and fast cars after a 20 year absence was the relative low rpms that everybody was running. Now, 7000rpms is considered high. My old, tired 283 with 120,000 miles routinely hit 7k in first when I wound out my Powerglide. :-)
I can remember newly-introduced solid roller rocker-equipped small blocks reving beyond 10k back in the late 70's.
On the positive side, I was amazed at the performance improvements of fuel injection over carbs, in terms of fuel efficiency, drivability and power output.
Old Oct 20, 2003 | 11:32 AM
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I say tow, because Stanton always has awesome traction, especially at all the "M" events, so the chances of breakage are always there, especially with a high horsepower application and a stock rear end. (I'm assuming you've got those 4.10s in a stock 10 bolt?)
I thought about the possibility of breakage, too. Even though I won't be trying out my transbrake, I'm still a little leary about launching on a 10-bolt rear. I was impressed with Stanton's traction at the Nationals. It's way stickier than Milan. My son and his buddy both have 10-bolts in their Camaros as well and they're going to be testing their bottle-fed cars for the first time. If one of them breaks, we'll have a tow vehicle and I can always drive my car back if that happens.
Old Oct 20, 2003 | 12:39 PM
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From what I remember your car launches pretty hard. I do not think the 10 bolt will hold up. My advice would be to get your car trailered.
Old Oct 20, 2003 | 01:06 PM
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Nobody answered your last question.....YES! you are insane for even thinking of driving there.
Old Oct 20, 2003 | 01:13 PM
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With the stock rear I would tow it. I drive just about anywhere with mine but a transbrake and a 10 bolt just doesn't make sense.
Old Oct 20, 2003 | 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by tnthub
With the stock rear I would tow it. I drive just about anywhere with mine but a transbrake and a 10 bolt just doesn't make sense.
I'm not going to use the TB until I get a real rear under the car. And I've decided to tow it if I can get a dolly from my buddy.
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