Header and Steering Shaft clearance
Header and Steering Shaft clearance
I installed a set of Pacesetter mids on my Z a couple weeks ago. Man I love the sound and performance. But, the outside of the #3 tube is rubbing on the steering shaft. When everything is cold, there's a slight clearance between the tube and the shaft with the rounded side pointing toward the tube. After being warmed up though, it rubs on the round sides, but still clears the flat sides. I wanted to try and adjust the shaft some, but its as far down onto the rack that it will go. I've got an LS1 shaft I want to put in (also eliminates the rag joint), but am not sure it will clear completely either. Is there anything else I can do? I did install new ES mounts when I did the headers. Also, one buddy suggested shimming the motor mounts. Would this be a good idea? Thanks in advance.
Re: Header and Steering Shaft clearance
I had my number one primary rubbing the shaft.
I took the shaft appart, cut it down 5/8" and welded it back together. This made the overall length of the steering shaft shorter.
I also removed the bolts on the steering column at the firewall, longated the holes with a Dremel and shifter it to the passenger side and bought another 1/4".
Steering shaft is now perfectly placed and has never rubbed at all.
Here is the finished product.
I took the shaft appart, cut it down 5/8" and welded it back together. This made the overall length of the steering shaft shorter.
I also removed the bolts on the steering column at the firewall, longated the holes with a Dremel and shifter it to the passenger side and bought another 1/4".
Steering shaft is now perfectly placed and has never rubbed at all.
Here is the finished product.
Last edited by wrd1972; Oct 5, 2006 at 07:50 PM.
Re: Header and Steering Shaft clearance
Try putting in new motor mounts.... usually if you have old mounts they tend to sag and can cause clearance issues with the steering shaft/knuckle and sometimes k-member.
Jeff
Jeff
Re: Header and Steering Shaft clearance
Maybe it is the new mounts? I have stock mounts, and mine clears just fine.
Its a 95' btw. Something to think of ... Whats it gonna cost you to switch back to factory mounts?
Its a 95' btw. Something to think of ... Whats it gonna cost you to switch back to factory mounts?
Re: Header and Steering Shaft clearance
Well, before I did the mounts, the driver's side mid wouldn't even clear the steering shaft. Afterwards, there was at least some clearance when cold. Should I start looking at shimming the motor mount(s)? Is there any other adjustment I can do?
Re: Header and Steering Shaft clearance
Are they coated headers?
If not, before I would do all that work, I would get them red hot with a torch and give it a tiny tap with a ball-pean hammer. Its not going to affect flow at all if your only dimpling it 1/16 of an inch like ya need.
If their coated though, dont do it. Who knows if the coating would peel or something ****ed like that.
If not, before I would do all that work, I would get them red hot with a torch and give it a tiny tap with a ball-pean hammer. Its not going to affect flow at all if your only dimpling it 1/16 of an inch like ya need.
If their coated though, dont do it. Who knows if the coating would peel or something ****ed like that.
Re: Header and Steering Shaft clearance
Originally Posted by Steve93Z
I talked with Pacesetter and they suggested loosening the motor mounts and shuffling the motor to the passenger side. Is this possible?
I have been hearing a lot of this with the pacesetters. Personally I would go with jet hots or kooks.
Re: Header and Steering Shaft clearance
Originally Posted by HardcoreRM125
Are they coated headers?
If not, before I would do all that work, I would get them red hot with a torch and give it a tiny tap with a ball-pean hammer. Its not going to affect flow at all if your only dimpling it 1/16 of an inch like ya need.
If their coated though, dont do it. Who knows if the coating would peel or something ****ed like that.
If not, before I would do all that work, I would get them red hot with a torch and give it a tiny tap with a ball-pean hammer. Its not going to affect flow at all if your only dimpling it 1/16 of an inch like ya need.
If their coated though, dont do it. Who knows if the coating would peel or something ****ed like that.
Originally Posted by wrd1972
If pacesetter told me that I would have lashed out at them for making a ****ty fitting product. I mean seriously, should you have to reposition the motor, WTF.
I have been hearing a lot of this with the pacesetters. Personally I would go with jet hots or kooks.
I have been hearing a lot of this with the pacesetters. Personally I would go with jet hots or kooks.
What about rotating the motor slightly? I remember the passenger side mounting bracket to the motor is slotted. Would that help any?
Also, I read that the steering column itself can be repositioned to an extent. Would this do anything?
I'll try and get some pics tomorrow...if my camera-phone will permit.
Re: Header and Steering Shaft clearance
Originally Posted by wrd1972
I have been hearing a lot of this with the pacesetters. Personally I would go with jet hots or kooks.
Re: Header and Steering Shaft clearance
Ok, here's some pics. I couldn't get closer without bringing the car into the garage and jacking it up, but you can still see where the problem is.








Re: Header and Steering Shaft clearance
Like you said, try shimming the motor on the driver side with some washers and see if that gives the additional clearance you need. Hope you get this problem straightened out!
Jeff
Jeff
Re: Header and Steering Shaft clearance
Moving the steering column over involves enlarging the three holes in the flange at the firewall. Remove the column and run a drill bit through the holes. I have done this on several cars. I have gained anywhere from 1/4 to 1/2 inch of clearance depending on how much I enlarged the holes.


