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Hal/qa1 shocks ...Cars just sinks to the ground????

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Old Mar 1, 2003 | 05:14 AM
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Hal/qa1 shocks ...Cars just sinks to the ground????

What could be the problem....I put them on tried to adjust them and noting happens ...Just seems like its riding on the spings.....I got the front and the backs set on 1 and they have No return at all I push down on the car and it just stays down??? Anybody else everhad this problem?????Not sure what the deal is..What expereiences have you all had???? I am sure it was done right....Could there be something I done wrong???? Need help ASAP .....
Old Mar 1, 2003 | 05:17 AM
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Are they too tight? I've got the HAl/QA1's....adjust them to the loose position to start, then set them according to your preferences.
Old Mar 1, 2003 | 09:07 AM
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If you have them turned way up, it will feel like a rock. Turn them all the way down (counter-clockwise), then feel them out again. On the lowest setting you should be able to jounce the back end up and down at will. The front is a little harder to jounce because there is no good place to grab or push hard.
Start with them low, as bad96firechikin suggested and go up.
Old Mar 1, 2003 | 12:54 PM
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I did try to adjust them tried them in every position.....What happens is that ...When I let it down off the lift ( ITS ONE THAT GOES UNDER THE SUBFRAMES,NOT ONE YOU DRIVE ON lets the suspension hang) I let it down and it looks right......But if you go push on the fender it sinks all the way to the tire with NO return whatsoever...I can't figure it out....I am beginning to think they are faulty....The back Now....you can push on them and it as hard as all get out...tried all position there..It has No return either????? I had a couple of f body buddies down there last night and there car don't have them and the bounce up and down like No other....Not sure what the deal is with these things...
Old Mar 1, 2003 | 02:19 PM
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Well it would be the springs that cause the rebound. The shocks control at what rate they rebound. Did you try plunging the shocks in and out when they were off the car? The back ones would be easy enough to remove from the bottom mouint and check. The front ones would be a little harder. It would seem strange if all of them were messed up.
Old Mar 1, 2003 | 02:38 PM
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The springs are probably set too low, just raise them up some.

Or am I reading this wrong. Things settle after you drop it off the lift and bounce around a bit.
Old Mar 2, 2003 | 11:46 AM
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the springs are about 1.5-2 inches from the top of the shock....I put it on the lift and let it down....It looks right till you either drive it and it settles on the tire , or you can push down on it and it will not come back up....I set it on 1 , then tried six, then tried 12 same results.....Not sure what the deal is????? The back ones.....you can push down on them and they feel like its just the springs...no rebound there either tried them at all positions as well....
Old Mar 2, 2003 | 12:39 PM
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Just to be clear on what you are saying.... you have the car sitting on the ground, the body appears to be where it is supposed to be... a little clearance between the fender edges and the tire. You push down on the body both in the front, and in the back, and the car drops until the body is on the tire, and doesn't come back up? Is that what you are saying?

If so, unbolt the bottom of the rear shock from the axle bracket, and see what happens then when you push down the body. That will show you if the shocks are contributing in any way to the problem.

There is no reason the shocks should "hold the body down".... they are just dampers, not springs. The HAL/QA1's are not "gas shocks" like the stockers, so they are going to stay exactly where the spring sits. Unlike the stockers, that do apply a slight upward force because of the gas pressure.
Old Mar 2, 2003 | 01:27 PM
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Perhaps you have it so low that the shocks are bottomed out? That would not be good for the shocks at all.
Old Mar 2, 2003 | 06:48 PM
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I think I should have added this in the first post , and now that I have put the stock stuff back on and looked at it ..It does the same thing with the stockers.....I think the problem could be the tubular a-arms....I did those at the same time....Didn't think nothing of it to post that initially.....Any ideas on that????
Old Mar 2, 2003 | 06:56 PM
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I wouldn't think that the A-Arms would do anything to mess things up that bad. Get a camera and take pictures of your A-Arm install, maybe they're in wrong? (ie: right on left and left on right)
Old Mar 2, 2003 | 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by 94 TA TT2S
I think I should have added this in the first post , and now that I have put the stock stuff back on and looked at it ..It does the same thing with the stockers.....I think the problem could be the tubular a-arms....I did those at the same time....Didn't think nothing of it to post that initially.....Any ideas on that????
Yes, it would have been better to give all the variables in the beginning. It is kind of a waste of time not to know all of the facts.

I would scope out and compare the shock mounting positions.
Old Mar 2, 2003 | 07:51 PM
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I'm sorry it never crossed my mind I thought for sure that it was the shocks and springs , but I took all that off and it does the same thing as with the qa1's, then I thought well It could be the tubular a-arms.....Does anybody have an idea on that one?????
Old Mar 2, 2003 | 08:45 PM
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Are the bushings on the control arms to tight and causing the springs not to rebound? When I put my LCAs on they were kinda tight when I torqued them to the recommended 70 ft-lbs. They weren't tight enough to hold the car down on the springs but if you used an impact wrench or guessed on the torque, they could be way to tight. Just my .02
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