LT1 Based Engine Tech 1993-1997 LT1/LT4 Engine Related

Forged 4.00 Bore Pistons??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 18, 2006 | 04:18 PM
  #1  
1LESSZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 344
Forged 4.00 Bore Pistons??

Anyone recommend any? Preferably with a big dish for boost.
I don't want to pay to have the block bored .030 over. Can I rebuild the engine and just replace the pistons? Will I need to get it balanced?

Reason for the new pistons is boost but not too much ~10# maybe more but haven't researched so I am not sure of the max boost with stock crank
(heard max hp is ~550rwhp) Heads may have combustion chambers worked to lower compression if it is adviseable?

Last edited by 1LESSZ28; Dec 18, 2006 at 04:22 PM. Reason: 68k stock engine
Old Dec 18, 2006 | 04:29 PM
  #2  
Colin91Z's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 968
From: Wichita, KS
My new motor still has a 4.00 bore, I went with Probe forged pistons. Mine are flat top, but they had a listing for dished too when I looked. I looked for Mahle's first, but they didn't have a listing for what I needed at that time, although I'm pretty sure they have them for 4.00 bores now.
Old Dec 18, 2006 | 04:52 PM
  #3  
1LESSZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 344
I found these http://kb-silvolite.com/forged.php?a...etails&P_id=14

KB726 CHEVY 350 5.7 18.598 Step Dish

KB-Silvolite forged. Any thoughts on the pistons/company?
Old Dec 18, 2006 | 05:06 PM
  #4  
1LESSZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 344
http://www.cnc-motorsports.com/produ...80&CtgID=12779
The ^above^ are keith black and below are Probe Industries forged

http://www.cnc-motorsports.com/produ...07&CtgID=12417
4.000 3.480 5.700 Flat Top -20.3cc 8.26 7.46 486 .927 5/64 5/64 3/16

speed pro forged
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

which do you think are better? roughly the same pricewise

Last edited by 1LESSZ28; Dec 18, 2006 at 06:24 PM.
Old Dec 18, 2006 | 05:12 PM
  #5  
lethal93ta's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 603
From: Bethel Pa.
Originally Posted by 1LESSZ28
Anyone recommend any? Preferably with a big dish for boost.
I don't want to pay to have the block bored .030 over. Can I rebuild the engine and just replace the pistons? Will I need to get it balanced?

Reason for the new pistons is boost but not too much ~10# maybe more but haven't researched so I am not sure of the max boost with stock crank
(heard max hp is ~550rwhp) Heads may have combustion chambers worked to lower compression if it is adviseable?
depending on the shop it dont cost that much to get a block bored, if you plan on running a 4.00 piston make sure that you bores are dead on, I was looking when I built my 383 and I couldnt find any 4.0 bore pistons for a 383 so I went 4.030 to keep from buying a custom set of pistons, you will need to rebalance the assembly when you put pistons in there.
Old Dec 18, 2006 | 05:26 PM
  #6  
Jlo's Avatar
Jlo
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 877
From: B'ville
Mahle power packs their coated and come with file fit rings.
Old Dec 18, 2006 | 05:33 PM
  #7  
joe-96z1le's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 440
From: West Palm Beach, FL
Have your heads ported and the chambers opened up. Its a much easier way of lowering CR if you're low on cash for a shortblock rebuild. With only 6 lbs of boost and a stock cam, I made about 440 RWHP this way with a P600b S/C. Can always do a shortblock later.

For pistons get a custom set of JEs or Diamonds if you want to go that route. Its probably better to do a slight overbore to clean things up.
Old Dec 18, 2006 | 06:23 PM
  #8  
1LESSZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 344
Originally Posted by joe-96z1le
Have your heads ported and the chambers opened up. Its a much easier way of lowering CR if you're low on cash for a shortblock rebuild. With only 6 lbs of boost and a stock cam, I made about 440 RWHP this way with a P600b S/C. Can always do a shortblock later.

For pistons get a custom set of JEs or Diamonds if you want to go that route. Its probably better to do a slight overbore to clean things up.
How much can the chambers be opened up? I don't want to go cu$tom. Engine is low mileage 68k-never raced or abused but would still check the bores.
Old Dec 18, 2006 | 06:26 PM
  #9  
1LESSZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 344
well I found out the probe pistons are manufactured using a weaker grade of aluminum as opposed to my (so far) 2 other choices. Rules them out. I will be running 10# or more so stock pistons are out of the question.
Old Dec 18, 2006 | 06:38 PM
  #10  
lethal93ta's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 603
From: Bethel Pa.
I opened mine up to 58 CC, I dont think you can get to much more out of them.
Old Dec 18, 2006 | 07:11 PM
  #11  
1LESSZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 344
Originally Posted by lethal93ta
I opened mine up to 58 CC, I dont think you can get to much more out of them.

I have heard 64-65 max. anyone done/had there chambers ported this big?
Old Dec 18, 2006 | 07:20 PM
  #12  
1LESSZ28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 344
Well, here is a little more info on the Keith Black pistons. They are heat treated which should be good for boost/resist detonation right?? I don't think the speed pros are heat treated but I could not find much info on them like weight etc. not sure of the website -couldn't find it.


KB Pistons. These "New Generation Forgings" all have High Strength T-6 heat treated 2618 Primary aluminum alloy. They have Diamond machined skirt, head, mini-grooves, pin bore, gas accumulator, and ring groves. They also have pressure drilled pin hole oiling on all forgings, V-rib design for lightweight strength, and maximum piston cooling.

Do the speed pros even compare to these?? thoughts?
Old Dec 18, 2006 | 07:42 PM
  #13  
my94blackz's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,064
From: Dobson, NC
10 bux a hole to bore/hone. Around here anyhow.
Old Dec 29, 2006 | 08:51 AM
  #14  
DRCE's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 43
I'm sorry but Probes are hardly good enough to be paper weights. I personally wouldn't use them in a lawnmower.
Old Dec 29, 2006 | 09:12 AM
  #15  
NJLT1SS's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 1999
Posts: 661
From: Montville, NJ, U.S.A.
With my motor, I went with a .010 overbore. I just dont see the need or reason to go with a .030 overbore on a block that didnt need it. I also wanted to leave room for future builds or freshen ups. I got my pistons from J&E, the were custom ordered to my specs, and really werent much more than off the shelp pieces. Money well spent IMHO.



Nick



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:40 PM.