LT1 Based Engine Tech 1993-1997 LT1/LT4 Engine Related

Dynoed my LE3 finally

Old Nov 19, 2006 | 10:10 PM
  #1  
silverz28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 1999
Posts: 391
From: TX,USA
Dynoed my LE3 finally

Here is the graph.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v7...nt=dynorun.jpg

Made 402 HP and 396 TQ on one run and 392 HP and 424 TQ on the other run. I dynoed through a cutout and Mac mid length headers. I also have a 2800 stall converter and 315's out back. I have an OBD I conversion from PCMforless. I scanned the car with Data Master while on the dyno and sent the graph and files to Brian at PCMforless. I'm hoping for a few more ponies with new program but we will see. What do you think, is this a little low or just about right?

383
forged Eagle crank
forged Eagle 5.7 rods
-16cc SRP forged Pistons
11.7 CR static
58mm Throttle Body
LE3 heads and Cam
ported intake by Lloyd
Racetronix intank fuel pump kit
42 lb injectors
Old Nov 19, 2006 | 10:28 PM
  #2  
MeanGreen97Z's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 3,523
From: TX
You could definately use a tune. It will pick up some nice power. Any plans on dumping those midlengths? 1 5/8" primaries are hurting you for a few ponies. With a few other little things then you could be rolling a good 35 rwhp more.
Old Nov 19, 2006 | 10:37 PM
  #3  
WS6T3RROR's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,517
From: Engineerland
Originally Posted by silverz28
-16cc SRP forged Pistons
11.7 CR static
my math doesnt agree with that, unless you have some severely milled heads. not bashing just looking for a little clarification. nice numbers through an auto though and there should def be some more in it.
Old Nov 19, 2006 | 10:42 PM
  #4  
MeanGreen97Z's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 3,523
From: TX
Definately a hard number to get with -16 but zero decked with .026" gaskets and very milled heads could net that.
Old Nov 19, 2006 | 11:49 PM
  #5  
sbs's Avatar
sbs
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,154
From: VA
Originally Posted by silverz28
What do you think, is this a little low or just about right?
HP is in the LE3/355 range rather than 383.

Probably reasonable considering you don't have LTs or a dyno tune.

Here's a poorly-tuned LE3 383 with 458 HP on a mustang dyno:

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...highlight=dyno

What kind of dyno were you on?
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 12:09 AM
  #6  
turbo_Z's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,515
From: Kansas
Heres the deal... your AFR looks spot on right around 12.8:1 so you wont pick up anything by adjusting your fuel. Now spark might be a different story but I still wouldnt believe youll gain that much... maybe 10 hp but Im only guessing.

The main reason your numbers could be low is the tranny. Autos use up more power for starters and unless you locked the converter... you are losing even more power.
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 02:45 AM
  #7  
jimbob65's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 1998
Posts: 115
From: WA
Originally Posted by turbo_Z
Heres the deal... your AFR looks spot on right around 12.8:1 so you wont pick up anything by adjusting your fuel. Now spark might be a different story but I still wouldnt believe youll gain that much... maybe 10 hp but Im only guessing.

The main reason your numbers could be low is the tranny. Autos use up more power for starters and unless you locked the converter... you are losing even more power.
Yeah, everbody forgets the auto.....I lost 35-40 SAE rwhp going from manual to an unlocked auto. You won't lose that much with your unlocked tight 2800rpm stall, but I bet you'll lose 20.....Some long tubes will help for sure, and those 315 tires maybe taking an extra 5 rwhp? MY guess is 425-430 if it were a manual...the way it sits now...Good job....
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 01:21 PM
  #8  
LT4POWR's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 586
From: Oklahoma City, OK
Not too bad considering your headers, tuning, and auto tranny.
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 08:40 PM
  #9  
silverz28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 1999
Posts: 391
From: TX,USA
I think I'm pretty happy with it and my tuner thinks I won't pick up much more. It is a Dyno Jet dyno they were using which I think is most accurate. However, I think a more experienced person running the dyno would show maybe a little more. PCMforless is going to look at the scan and see if any more can be had. As far as the CR, the -16 pistons were a mistake on my part in the begging. I told Lloyd about it when ordering my LE3 stuff and he compensated for the CR somewhat. And also the thin gaskets. Oh well, next time I'll know. Now I need some track times.
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 08:47 PM
  #10  
MeanGreen97Z's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 3,523
From: TX
Quick question.... how did you manage a 11.7 CR with -16cc pistons? I understand the gaskets but what kind of material is removed from the heads?
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 09:00 PM
  #11  
silverz28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 1999
Posts: 391
From: TX,USA
I'm not really sure. You will have to ask master Lloyd.
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 09:11 PM
  #12  
MeanGreen97Z's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 3,523
From: TX
Who did the calculation for the compression ratio? Did you use a calculation table or did Lloyd tell you it would be 11.7?
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 09:14 PM
  #13  
silverz28's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 1999
Posts: 391
From: TX,USA
Pretty much Lloyd told me it would be aroung 11.7 with the heads, pistons, and gasket combo.
Old Nov 20, 2006 | 09:28 PM
  #14  
SS RRR's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 1998
Posts: 3,144
From: Jackstandican
It's probably accomplished if the combustion chambers are in the neighborhood of 54 to 60cc's (just a guess... didn't do the actual calculation).
Old Nov 21, 2006 | 01:49 AM
  #15  
SStrokerAce's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 6,518
Jeff,

I still can't read that dyno. Maybe it's the new monitor here??? Anyways I'm sure Bryan/Alvin will look over the scans for you and see what you need. The Mids are going to hurt the upper RPM range and therefore HP but they will help you around stall. If Lloyd milled your heads down a bunch then you would be around 11:1 (54cc chambers) but you would have paid a little more for that. Most likely it's high 10's low 11's.

Bret

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:11 PM.