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Dyno #'s lower than I hoped, any ideas?

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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 02:57 AM
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Re: Dyno #'s lower than I hoped, any ideas?

Dude, you and I seem to have the same problem...
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...highlight=Opti

If you figure it out let me know...our graphs look similiar.
Old Nov 27, 2004 | 10:19 AM
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Try this: Fuel Injector cleaner in the tank, the good stuff not the .99 stuff. Replace fuel filter. Then check your opti rotor to see if it's or the cap has carbon tracking dirt. Hope this helps.
Old Nov 27, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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I have 273.8HP and 303.8 TQ at the rear tires on a dynojet Dyno. The only mods being: Holley airfilter in stock airbox,airfoil,New valve springs and 1.6 roller tip rockers,30#injectors,MSD 6AL box,Accel plugs&wires,AFPR,Volt blaster,"test pipe"instead of cat on drivers side rest of the exhaust is stock,Hypertech programmer(without the tune just used the tyranny stuff and coolant features). So maybe mine has something wrong with it also?
Old Nov 27, 2004 | 02:19 PM
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Re: Dyno #'s lower than I hoped, any ideas?

Originally Posted by Patrick96Z28
I dynoed 263 rwHP & 297 rwTQ yesterday. The technician noticed a lag at 5500rpm. When he showed me the graph, you can see nice lines up to 5500rpm and then she poops out? He said it could be anything which didn't help me sleep at night. Car seems to run good, I'm lost.
I'd put your stock MAF back in. Changing it with minimal mods will actually hurt you instead of help, considering the stocker is supposed to be good to ~450rwhp.

You're also leaving power on the table with those shorties. If you dropped the shorties and at least got some mid-lengths that you'll see some nice gains. I'd also check out madz28.com for some programming. Ion works some wonders from what I hear.
Old Nov 27, 2004 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hairbear
I have 273.8HP and 303.8 TQ at the rear tires on a dynojet Dyno. The only mods being: Holley airfilter in stock airbox,airfoil,New valve springs and 1.6 roller tip rockers,30#injectors,MSD 6AL box,Accel plugs&wires,AFPR,Volt blaster,"test pipe"instead of cat on drivers side rest of the exhaust is stock,Hypertech programmer(without the tune just used the tyranny stuff and coolant features). So maybe mine has something wrong with it also?
You just need to ditch that stock airbox and get a cai. Why are you running 30# injectors? Is your PCM programmed for them?
Old Nov 27, 2004 | 04:15 PM
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Re: Dyno #'s lower than I hoped, any ideas?

i would get a nice tune up spark plugs o2 sensors and what not. that dont fix anything start thinking about replacing the opti from your graph that almost what it looks like what could be going wrong
Old Nov 28, 2004 | 05:19 AM
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Re: Dyno #'s lower than I hoped, any ideas?

Originally Posted by dmoor88
You just need to ditch that stock airbox and get a cai. Why are you running 30# injectors? Is your PCM programmed for them?
BTW sorry Patrick didn't mean to but in on your thread,but I too felt like my car ran good but the dyno just wasn't to fair.

Dmoor88,to answer your question. My 97SS never ran as good as my 95Z so I was kinda pissed slapped a shot of gas on it to blow it and get it replaced under warranty.lol
Well it never did,it just run some mid 7's in the 1/8th. After warranty run out I figured I'd make it a lil more safer on the motor hence the only mods on it. I heard that the stock injector would hydrualic lock when at 90% duty cycle and SVO's want. Buddy sold me some 30# ones really cheap and then I bought a AFPR and turned the fp down. But no tuning for them has been done. On the same dyno when sprayed it put down 394.9 rwhp and 458.2 torque with a 11.9 a/f ratio. ps the a/f ratio on the motor run was11.3
Do you really think the airbox is being a restriction? You know that's the only thing that really makes it an SS The same day I did these pulls I removedthe filter out of the stock box and lost like 6hp.
Old Dec 10, 2004 | 05:05 AM
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Re: Dyno #'s lower than I hoped, any ideas?

Originally Posted by RCF925
Weak stock valve springs will cause valve float which could be it. Ignition breakdown (Opti) could be another cause.
Seems like the LT1's are notorious for weak valve springs
Old Dec 10, 2004 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by hairbear
Seems like the LT1's are notorious for weak valve springs
I have experienced the opposite. I had over 180 passes down the strip, a high percentage of those runs squeezing the motor to 6,200 rpm on the stock springs with no valve float.
Old Dec 10, 2004 | 08:47 AM
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Re: Dyno #'s lower than I hoped, any ideas?

Originally Posted by Patrick96Z28
I dynoed 263 rwHP & 297 rwTQ yesterday. The technician noticed a lag at 5500rpm. When he showed me the graph, you can see nice lines up to 5500rpm and then she poops out? He said it could be anything which didn't help me sleep at night. Car seems to run good, I'm lost.


That is almost identical to what I dynoed with a CAI, 2800 stall converter, 3.73's and a cut out, on a slipping tranny.
Old Dec 10, 2004 | 02:36 PM
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Ive been running 1.6 rockers on my stock springs for quite awhile now. No valve float whatsoever.
Old Dec 10, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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Re: Dyno #'s lower than I hoped, any ideas?

Patrick,

It's possible your opti is going out and may be causing erratic spark timing at higher rpms. The power band does seem slightly low maybe, but pretty close. LT1's like yours should pull to about 5500 before crapping out. Before getting a tune from ION, you need to look into the opti. If the dyno sheet showed spark advance, air/fuel and those tables, you would figure out if the opti is bad. Also, are you sure one of your wires isn't touching a header, particularly the #7 wire? My friend (TransAmGT94 on here) has problems keeping his from hitting and he has shorties, and this will cause a slight miss.

Jason
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